Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Wed Aug 03, 2016 18:18:56

Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538
Fox News poll was conducted Sunday thru Tuesday, so postdates the (already pretty bad for Trump) data we got over the weekend.

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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby MoBettle » Wed Aug 03, 2016 18:21:17

More Clinton supporters say their vote is for her rather than against Trump (49-47 percent). Among Trump supporters, a majority says their vote is better described as being against Clinton (52 percent), while less than half are voting because they like him (44 percent).


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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Wed Aug 03, 2016 18:27:07

MoBettle wrote:
More Clinton supporters say their vote is for her rather than against Trump (49-47 percent). Among Trump supporters, a majority says their vote is better described as being against Clinton (52 percent), while less than half are voting because they like him (44 percent).


Incredible

44% of 39%...17% of Americans voting for him.

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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby thephan » Wed Aug 03, 2016 18:28:07

JUburton wrote:
thephan wrote:Ive not been able to sort the story about the $400M cash. Is there any chance that this is a cash that was tied up in the economic blockade that nations are now forced to pay in restitution? <its easier to ask you smart fellers to do the work for me>
https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/ ... 9692563457


Thanks, what I thought. There is a billion or so left to pay, unless we got out of that somehow. A lot will be made about the plane that it came in, and that it was cash, but 2 real important points are one we do not have a banking relationship making cash pretty much the only option, and 2 a big old American plane full of money would have been an even more unbelievable farce.

$400m is principle, 1.3B to go in interest. Hear the hallway sqwak box decrying this without context. It is as expected that we pay our debts. Trump wouldn't and has the track record order to prove it.

$400M 1979 in 2016 dollars is $1,397,488,921.71, so ~$300M more in interest is a bargain at 21.4% total for 37 years (even at today's saver rates).
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby Polar Bear Phan » Wed Aug 03, 2016 18:29:47

I wonder if there is a point where the bottom falls out for him and saner Republicans vote for Johnson just to kick Trump's worshippers in the nuts.

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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby threecount » Wed Aug 03, 2016 18:48:34

Another GOP Congressman says he won't vote for Trump...

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/a ... ump-226643

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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby Polar Bear Phan » Wed Aug 03, 2016 18:56:32

Didn't see it mentioned, but Charlie Dent (from Allentown) of the 15th district said he wouldn't vote for either Trump or Clinton.

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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby JFLNYC » Wed Aug 03, 2016 19:02:27

The whole system is rigged against ignorant, racist, xenophobic, misogynist, bellicose, unfit, treasonous, orange blowhards who demean war heroes and their Gold Star parents and want to use nuclear weapons. Trump just can't catch a break.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Aug 03, 2016 20:16:16

Jill Stein:
"As a medical doctor, there was a time where I looked very closely at those issues, and not all those issues were completely resolved," Stein said. "There were concerns among physicians about what the vaccination schedule meant, the toxic substances like mercury which used to be rampant in vaccines. There were real questions that needed to be addressed. I think some of them at least have been addressed. I don’t know if all of them have been addressed."

Who is to know if they've been addressed?!
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby JFLNYC » Wed Aug 03, 2016 20:54:29

I'm not a scientist.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby MoBettle » Wed Aug 03, 2016 21:14:25

the libertarian town hall is on cnn. weld seems like the president/johnson the vp
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Aug 03, 2016 21:17:39

pacino wrote:Jill Stein:
"As a medical doctor, there was a time where I looked very closely at those issues, and not all those issues were completely resolved," Stein said. "There were concerns among physicians about what the vaccination schedule meant, the toxic substances like mercury which used to be rampant in vaccines. There were real questions that needed to be addressed. I think some of them at least have been addressed. I don’t know if all of them have been addressed."

Who is to know if they've been addressed?!
Really just one step away from 'people are saying. i don't know. you tell me. people are saying that'

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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby The Savior » Wed Aug 03, 2016 22:01:43

threecount wrote:Also in that poll, Obama's popularity is at the highest since Bin Laden's death...


Perspective is a helluva thing (coming from someone that doesn't know what Obama has really done effectively)
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Aug 03, 2016 22:03:12

A lot!
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed Aug 03, 2016 22:05:49

threecount wrote:Another GOP Congressman says he won't vote for Trump...

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/a ... ump-226643


Right behind Kinsinger in that photo is grossly obese gap-toothed imbecile TX congressroach Blake Farenthold (bright blue tie that looks like a big bird shat on the end of it).

He's drumpf from the heels up - wonder why he's there

I'm not with Kinsinger on a number of issues but he's an R I could still respect.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby Woody » Wed Aug 03, 2016 22:08:52

MoBettle wrote:weld seems like the president/johnson the vp


yeah it was kind of refreshing
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby SK790 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 22:34:06

pacino wrote:Jill Stein:
"As a medical doctor, there was a time where I looked very closely at those issues, and not all those issues were completely resolved," Stein said. "There were concerns among physicians about what the vaccination schedule meant, the toxic substances like mercury which used to be rampant in vaccines. There were real questions that needed to be addressed. I think some of them at least have been addressed. I don’t know if all of them have been addressed."

Who is to know if they've been addressed?!

I wish I could delete the word vaccine from her vocabulary.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby SK790 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 22:35:47

CalvinBall wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
SK790 wrote:
Werthless wrote:
SK790 wrote:
The Nightman Cometh wrote:Uh, the Affordable Care Act, the most progressive healthcare legislation in American history passed in 2010.

It's farther to the left than our old policy which was super conservative. Anything without single payer can't be considered liberal at this point.

Did we previously have healthcare legislation more progressive than the ACA? I genuinely don't know, but didnt think so. It was correctly viewed as a big win for Obama, arguments about No True Scotsman notwithstanding.

nope, didn't say we did.

it was a big win.

that doesn't mean it's centrist by an actual view of politics instead of a skewed American view.


Why wouldn't we judge American politics on the American political spectrum?



And what country are we basing it off of

Surprisingly, what's liberal and conservative isn't limited just based on what is going on in America. Other people in other countries also exist and have political ideas.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby slugsrbad » Wed Aug 03, 2016 23:09:07

SK790 wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
SK790 wrote:
Werthless wrote:
SK790 wrote:
The Nightman Cometh wrote:Uh, the Affordable Care Act, the most progressive healthcare legislation in American history passed in 2010.

It's farther to the left than our old policy which was super conservative. Anything without single payer can't be considered liberal at this point.

Did we previously have healthcare legislation more progressive than the ACA? I genuinely don't know, but didnt think so. It was correctly viewed as a big win for Obama, arguments about No True Scotsman notwithstanding.

nope, didn't say we did.

it was a big win.

that doesn't mean it's centrist by an actual view of politics instead of a skewed American view.


Why wouldn't we judge American politics on the American political spectrum?



And what country are we basing it off of

Surprisingly, what's liberal and conservative isn't limited just based on what is going on in America. Other people in other countries also exist and have political ideas.


Yes, but we are Americans discussing American politics and legislature. What's the point of judging bills on some grand unified spectrum?

You can say that there are more progressive/liberal options out there while also understanding that the ACA was liberal.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Aug 03, 2016 23:32:29

The Republican running for governor of Missouri since he just won the primary:



He's backed by Sheldon Adelson, casino magnate
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