pacino wrote:did we ever find the bastard who shat down trent's chimney?

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:

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The Nightman Cometh wrote:Clinton up big in new PA, MI, and NH polls.

Excellent. Barring some type of wikileaks disaster, it's over. She doesn't even need FLa or Oh.

Take NH, PA, MI, Wi, Col, and VA....272. Game over.

Dammit not good enough, I want a landslide with the senate changing to blue and the house gaining back a bunch of seats (unrealistic to think they can get 30)

JUburton wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html?_r=0

Paths to victory interactive at the bottom is pretty fun. So nice to click PA and VA (which I think are absolute locks) and see 253 paths to 2. Add NV and it's already over.

"I think these polls, I don't know, there's something about these polls, there's something phony."

Woody wrote:You guys think that Trump will give a humble concession speech?

ALLOWED: Jokes about Trump's hair
ALLOWED: Jokes about Trump's wife Melania (and his two previous marriages)
ALLOWED: Jokes about Trump having sex with models
ALLOWED: Jokes about the failure of Trump Steaks, Trump Water, Trump Cologne, and other Trump products
ALLOWED: Jokes about Trump's failed casinos
ALLOWED: Jokes about how Trump only became successful thanks to his wealthy father
ALLOWED: Jokes about Trump's weight
ALLOWED: Jokes about Trump being attracted to his daughter Ivanka
NOT ALLOWED: Any joke that suggests Trump is not actually as wealthy as he claims to be

Since Rodrigo Duterte became president of the Philippines just over a month ago, promising to get tough on crime by having the police and the military kill drug suspects, 420 people have been killed in the campaign, according to tallies of police reports by the local news media.

Most were killed in confrontations with the police, while 154 were killed by unidentified vigilantes. This has prompted 114,833 people to turn themselves in, as either drug addicts or dealers, since Mr. Duterte took office, according to national police logs.

But human rights groups, Roman Catholic activists and the families of many of those killed during the crackdown say that the vast majority were poor Filipinos, many of whom had nothing to do with the drug trade. They were not accorded an accusation and a trial, but were simply shot down in the streets, the critics say.

Critics of the president’s campaign have rallied around the case of Michael Siaron, a 29-year-old rickshaw driver in Manila, who was shot one night by unidentified gunmen as he pedaled his vehicle in search of a passenger. When his wife rushed to the scene, a photographer took a picture of her cradling his body in the street, and the photograph quickly gained wide attention.

Scribbled in block letters on a cardboard sign left near his body was the word “pusher.” His family members insist that he was not involved in the drug trade, though they said he sometimes used meth.

Indirectly acknowledging criticism that his policies trample over the standard judicial process, Mr. Duterte said that human rights “cannot be used as a shield to destroy the country.”

He has called for drug users and sellers to turn themselves in or risk being hunted down, a threat backed up by the bodies piling up near daily on the streets of Philippine cities.

“There you are sprawled on the ground, and you are portrayed in a broadsheet like Mother Mary cradling the dead cadaver of Jesus Christ,” he said. “That’s just drama.”

SK790 wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

SK790 wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

SK790 wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:Why wouldn't we judge American politics on the American political spectrum?

And what country are we basing it off of

Surprisingly, what's liberal and conservative isn't limited just based on what is going on in America. Other people in other countries also exist and have political ideas.

Yes, but we are Americans discussing American politics and legislature. What's the point of judging bills on some grand unified spectrum?
You can say that there are more progressive/liberal options out there while also understanding that the ACA was liberal.

Liberal and conservative have meanings that go beyond American politics. Why can't you accept that?

It's true. In many countries the liberals are the good ones.

Your party nominated Trump.