
have to go so starting this a touch early
FTN wrote: im a dick towards everyone, you're not special.
Shame on Khizr Khan for exploiting the death of his son, for political gain, at the Democratic Convention. He should direct his anger and grief toward the radical Muslims who killed his boy and not Donald Trump, who had absolutely nothing to do with Capt. Humayun Khan's demise.
Would Mr. Khan open our borders to these radicals without thorough screening? In a perfect world, compassion for Muslim migrants, most of them innocent, who are flooding Europe and soon the U.S. is an admirable American quality. However, we are not living in a perfect world. Therefore the security of our American citizens is to be first and foremost.
Mr. Khan, I share your grief, but not your rhetoric nor ideology. Muslims must unite against radical Islamists. They are the enemy.
Frank A. Catroneo
Albany Township
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
he night Mitt Romney lost, Donald Trump tweeted.
About 20 minutes after polls closed on the West Coast, television networks called the election for President Obama. Like Karl Rove, who'd just been told that Fox News had called Ohio against the Republican, Trump was incredulous. "He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election," he tweeted. "We should have a revolution in this country!"
Over the next half hour, he continued.The phoney electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one! We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!
Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us. More votes equals a loss ... revolution! This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy! Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble ... like never before. The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
The tweets about "revolution" were deleted that night. Most of the others, including the one about how "we can't let this happen," remain.
Trump's assertion that Obama had "lost the popular vote by a lot" was incorrect, though by 11 p.m., the votes had not all been counted yet. In the end, Obama won by about 5 million votes.
At least one prominent supporter is already on board with the message. Over the weekend, long-time Trump ally (and one-time Trump staffer) Roger Stone conducted an interview with Breitbart.com, a website that's been staunchly and unabashedly supportive of Trump's candidacy. Stone openly endorsed the idea that voting machines can be and have been rigged -- including in Ohio in 2012.
Stone encouraged Trump to start priming the pump on the issue.
"I think we have widespread voter fraud, but the first thing that Trump needs to do is begin talking about it constantly," Stone said. "He needs to say for example, today would be a perfect example: 'I am leading in Florida. The polls all show it. If I lose Florida, we will know that there’s voter fraud. If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government.'"
"If you can’t have an honest election," Stone said, according to Breitbart, "nothing else counts. I think he’s gotta put them on notice that their inauguration will be a rhetorical, and when I mean civil disobedience, not violence, but it will be a bloodbath."
Three days later, Trump mentioned his concerns about the general election process being rigged to an audience in Columbus, Ohio.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
Slowhand wrote:If Trump were to actually get elected, is there really a chance he wouldn't just be impeached within the first 6 months?
Kind of puts the mind at ease when you think of it that way.
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Slowhand wrote:If Trump were to actually get elected, is there really a chance he wouldn't just be impeached within the first 6 months?
Kind of puts the mind at ease when you think of it that way.
If Trump wins the election, the GOP obviously retains its majority in both house of Congress. Setting aside the unlikely possibility of two GOP majorities supporting impeachment and then convicting him, do you honestly believe for a single second that Donald Trump would willingly give up power even if he were impeached?
And what does Trump do in the meantime while the articles of impeachment and trial are still pending?
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
"I think the Republican nominee is unfit to serve as president," Obama said, while speaking next to the Singaporean prime minister at a press conference. "I said so last week, and he keeps on proving it. The notion that he would attack a Gold Star family that had made such extraordinary sacrifices on behalf of our country, the fact that he doesn’t appear to have basic knowledge around critical issues in Europe, in the Middle East, in Asia, means that he’s woefully unprepared to do this job.
There has to come a point at which you say, ‘This is not somebody I support for president of the United States, even if he purports to be a member of my party,’" Obama said. "The fact that this has not happened makes these denunciations ring hollow."
I think the question they [top Republicans] have to ask themselves is, "If they repeatedly have to say in very strong terms that what he says is unacceptable, why are you still endorsing him?" What does this say about your party that this is your standard-bearer? This isn’t a situation where you have an episodic gaffe. This is daily and weekly. There has to come a point at which you say, "This is not somebody I support for president of the United States, even if he purports to be a member of my party." The fact that this has not happened makes these denunciations ring hollow.
I don’t doubt their sincerity; I don’t doubt that they were outraged by the statements Mr. Trump and his supporters made about the Khan family. But there has to be a point where you say, "Someone who makes that kinds of statements doesn’t have the judgment, the temperament, or the understanding to occupy the most powerful position in the world." Because a lot of people depend on the White House getting stuff right.
This is different than just having policy disagreements. I recognize [the Republicans] profoundly disagree with myself and Hilly Clinton on tax policy or certain elements of foreign policy. But there have been Republican presidents with whom I disagreed with, but I didn’t have a doubt they could function as president. I think I was right and Mitt Romney and John McCain were wrong on certain policy issues, but I never thought they couldn’t do the job. ... [If they had won,] I would have said to all Americans, "This is our president, and I know they’re going to abide by certain norms and rules and common sense and will observe basic decency, and have enough knowledge about economic and foreign policy and constitutional traditions and rule of law that our government will work. And we’ll compete four years from now to win an election."
But that’s not the situation here. And that’s not my opinion — that’s the opinion of many prominent Republicans. There has to come a point at which you say, "Enough." The alternative is that the entire Republican Party effectively endorses and validates the positions being articulated by Mr. Trump.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
Slowhand wrote:Well maybe he'll just croak before the election. I'm just trying to think positive.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
pacino wrote:yes, it needs to be convincing.
pacino wrote:Slowhand wrote:Well maybe he'll just croak before the election. I'm just trying to think positive.
he seriously looks unhealthy in the face. the bags under his eyes are protruding at this point.
thephan wrote:pacino wrote:yes, it needs to be convincing.
The table is set. If T loses, he puts on his purple heart and drops a lawsuit. You just know it. Calling it rigged less then a week after the DNC nomination of a candidate. I just pray we all survive.
That said, what happens with Obama? Does he just hang out until its sorted out?
JFLNYC wrote:thephan wrote:pacino wrote:yes, it needs to be convincing.
The table is set. If T loses, he puts on his purple heart and drops a lawsuit. You just know it. Calling it rigged less then a week after the DNC nomination of a candidate. I just pray we all survive.
That said, what happens with Obama? Does he just hang out until its sorted out?
I'm sure the results will be certified and Hillary will be the President-elect and then, barring court intervention, sworn in as President. It will be up to Trump to prove his claims in a court of law and overturn the election results just as Gore had to sue to try to continue the vote counting in Florida.
Pretty convinced Obama would shank him at the White House.Slowhand wrote:If Trump were to actually get elected, is there really a chance he wouldn't just be impeached within the first 6 months?
Kind of puts the mind at ease when you think of it that way.