thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
pacino wrote:If birthers acknowledge Cruz is eligible they'll have to acknowledge Obama is, TV. So, they wont.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
Doll Is Mine wrote:This Ellen DeGeneres look alike on ESPN is annoying. Who the hell is he?
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
pacino wrote:The party's voters are 50/50 split into birthers and non-birthers. This moves the party in the end.
Personal relationships definitely are real, and everyone hates Cruz, but if they thought he was their best shot they'd flock.
pacino wrote:Isil bomber in Istanbul killed 10
Gimpy wrote:Is that a real quote? What is it even supposed to mean?
Bucky wrote:pacino wrote:Isil bomber in Istanbul killed 10
so is that the real reason you cancelled tonight
Doll Is Mine wrote:This Ellen DeGeneres look alike on ESPN is annoying. Who the hell is he?
TenuredVulture wrote:pacino wrote:The party's voters are 50/50 split into birthers and non-birthers. This moves the party in the end.
Personal relationships definitely are real, and everyone hates Cruz, but if they thought he was their best shot they'd flock.
The other thing is that Cruz birth really was in Canada, and his citizenship (and presumed eligibility for the Presidency) is based on the fact that his mother (though not his father) was a US citizen. The Birther issue in Cruz's case has to do with what "natural born citizen" in the Constitution means.
For Obama, by contrast, the birther issue was based on whackos who believed he was born in Kenya, rather than Hawaii. Thus, all the nonsense about his birth certificate. There were I suppose some people who believed that Obama was born in Hawaii and yet still ineligible because both his parents were not citizens, but those people I think were a tiny group of birthers.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
TenuredVulture wrote:pacino wrote:If birthers acknowledge Cruz is eligible they'll have to acknowledge Obama is, TV. So, they wont.
But it's not birthers, it's mainstream/establishment Republicans who are basically not doing anything to criticize Trump's latest.
pacino wrote:TenuredVulture wrote:pacino wrote:The party's voters are 50/50 split into birthers and non-birthers. This moves the party in the end.
Personal relationships definitely are real, and everyone hates Cruz, but if they thought he was their best shot they'd flock.
The other thing is that Cruz birth really was in Canada, and his citizenship (and presumed eligibility for the Presidency) is based on the fact that his mother (though not his father) was a US citizen. The Birther issue in Cruz's case has to do with what "natural born citizen" in the Constitution means.
For Obama, by contrast, the birther issue was based on whackos who believed he was born in Kenya, rather than Hawaii. Thus, all the nonsense about his birth certificate. There were I suppose some people who believed that Obama was born in Hawaii and yet still ineligible because both his parents were not citizens, but those people I think were a tiny group of birthers.
Cruz's embrace of originalism should require that he stop running for president.