Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (politics

Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby SK790 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 16:00:53

Gimpy wrote:Some not too shocking stuff here. The media is largely ignoring Bernie while raising money for Shillary's campaign. It's pretty gross to me to call our system of government a democracy when our candidates are bought, paid for, and selected by large corporations.

The presidential campaign of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is demanding more equitable coverage from the “corporate network news,” which it says has engaged in a “Bernie blackout.”

The campaign pointed to data showing that flagship news programs on ABC, CBS and NBC devote paltry air time to Sanders compared to other similarly positioned candidates.

“The corporately-owned media may not like Bernie’s anti-establishment views but for the sake of American democracy they must allow for a fair debate in this presidential campaign,” Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said in a statement Friday.

“Bernie must receive the same level of coverage on the nightly news as other leading candidates,” Weaver continued.

The statement said ABC’s “World News Tonight” has devoted 81 minutes of air time to the campaign of Republican primary front-runner Donald Trump this year, compared to 20 seconds on Sanders through the end of November.

It also pointed to NBC’s “Nightly News,” which has afforded Sanders’ campaign 2.9 minutes of air time, and “CBS Evening News,” which has given Sanders 6.4 minutes of coverage.

The campaign pointed out that Sanders has received some of the largest crowds of any presidential candidate this election cycle, yet fails to draw equivalent levels of media attention.

Sanders currently trails Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton nationally, according to a RealClearPolitics polling average. Clinton garners 54 percent support, with Sanders at 31 percent.

But the Vermont senator leads Clinton in the early-voting state of New Hampshire by four points, according to RCP.


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem ... rate-media

The giant media companies that shape much of the coverage of the presidential campaign have a vested stake in the outcome. From campaign finance laws that govern how money is spent on advertising to the regulators who oversee consolidation rules, the media industry has a distinct policy agenda, and with it, a political team to influence the result.

The top fundraisers for Clinton include lobbyists who serve the parent companies of CNN and MSNBC.

The National Association of Broadcasters, a trade group that represents the television station industry, has lobbyists who are fundraising for both Clinton and Republican candidate Marco Rubio.

Presidential campaigns are obligated by law to send the Federal Election Commission a list of lobbyists who serve as “bundlers,” collecting hundreds of individual checks on behalf of a candidate’s campaign.

CNN’s parent company, Time Warner, is represented on Capitol Hill by Steve Elmendorf, an adviser to Clinton during her 2008 campaign, who is also known as “one of Washington’s top lobbyists.” He’s lobbied on a number of issues important for media companies like CNN, including direct-to-consumer advertising policy.

Elmendorf, according to disclosures, has raised at least $141,815 for Clinton’s 2016 bid for the presidency.

Comcast, the parent company of NBC Universal, which includes cable networks NBC, CNBC, and MSNBC, has a number of lobbyists on retainer who are working to raise cash for the Clinton campaign, including Justin Gray, Alfred Mottur, Ingrid Duran and Catherine Pino.


https://theintercept.com/2015/10/29/med ... ential/?dg

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tru ... 538twitter

Mostly about Trump, but the Dem numbers stick out, too.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby traderdave » Tue Dec 15, 2015 17:41:12

I agree with you, Pacino; there really appears to be no great need for a hike here other than the fact that Yellen has been all but promising one for the better part of a year. Here is a quick primer on the impending interest rate hike from The Economist for anyone interested:

http://www.economist.com/news/finance-e ... -rate-hike

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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby smitty » Tue Dec 15, 2015 18:37:53

traderdave wrote:
smitty wrote:The bad part is, us smarty pants types may be missing the boat.

Nixon won in 1972 and the pundits were shocked because they didn't know anyone who voted for him.

I try to keep that in mind.


I don't know about you but I am perfectly fine not knowing anyone who would actually vote for Donald Trump.


I know quite a few Trump supporters. It's easy to dismiss them but no one ever went broke underestimating the gullibility of the American people.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby drsmooth » Tue Dec 15, 2015 19:29:28

traderdave wrote:I agree with you, Pacino; there really appears to be no great need for a hike here other than the fact that Yellen has been all but promising one for the better part of a year. Here is a quick primer on the impending interest rate hike from The Economist for anyone interested:

http://www.economist.com/news/finance-e ... -rate-hike



Cons pretty much kick the shit out of the pros in that comparison. The "pro" items are basically about the Fed's reputation: "a failure to raise rates after she's looked in the mirror for a year but not changed outfits would DEFINITELY make her ass look too fat"
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Youseff » Tue Dec 15, 2015 21:38:23

lot of gay guys participating in tonights debate
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby smitty » Tue Dec 15, 2015 22:34:47

Cruz is talking about carpet bombing again. He's ready to fight World War II. Great. He says we carpet bombed during Desert Storm.

He's stupid. We use guided munitions to destroy specific targets. Carpet bombing would play right into ISIS' hand.

Isis doesn't have large formations of combat units in the desert where there's no danger of Collateral Damage.

He can't be a Commander in Chief if he doesn't understand the basics.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby pacino » Tue Dec 15, 2015 22:42:15

Mike Rowe seems like an obtuse dope
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby drsmooth » Tue Dec 15, 2015 22:42:36

Jeb getting cheered for calling out Turnip's dipshittery. I like it. Turnip tries a comeback & crowd boos him. That's it Rs - take your party back - make it great again
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby pacino » Tue Dec 15, 2015 22:42:55

smitty wrote:Cruz is talking about carpet bombing again. He's ready to fight World War II. Great. He says we carpet bombed during Desert Storm.

He's stupid. We use guided munitions to destroy specific targets. Carpet bombing would play right into ISIS' hand.

Isis doesn't have large formations of combat units in the desert where there's no danger of Collateral Damage.

He can't be a Commander in Chief if he doesn't understand the basics.

He underperformed in Texas as a Republican running statewide. It would amaze me if he became president.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby drsmooth » Tue Dec 15, 2015 22:45:10

Paul jumping on Jeb's "let's beat on the Turnip brat" train, calling out his utter ignorance of the Constitution. He's got the best war-whooping crowd members.

Turnip's responses are ignorant, and draw boos
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby drsmooth » Tue Dec 15, 2015 23:00:17

Wow, Cruz all over the lot on ME policy. Kill people, but with bombs from way up high, and not any Syrian leaders, because Asad is an Iranian puppet (?!?), but just ISIS because he can identify them from waaaaay up, and that will work because he's talking loudly and with a sneer on his greasy face!
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby drsmooth » Tue Dec 15, 2015 23:03:14

Turnip: "ME is a mess! Let's bomb it sometimes, a lot, it's a mess! We have nothing. wounded warriers I love them. Take the oil!"
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby smitty » Tue Dec 15, 2015 23:17:25

Trump is afraid of Bush I guess.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby momadance » Tue Dec 15, 2015 23:35:02

Which son of an immigrant loathes immigrants more ... Cruz or Rubio?

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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Dec 16, 2015 04:28:10

drsmooth wrote:Jeb getting cheered for calling out Turnip's dipshittery. I like it. Turnip tries a comeback & crowd boos him. That's it Rs - take your party back - make it great again



Who should they take it back for? Cruz? Rubio? Jeb? The real problem is the GOP has no credible candidate right now. Jeb is dull and shackled with the Bush name, Rubio is just not ready and may not have the stuff anyway, and Cruz is just an asshole who has said too many insane things.

The way I see it, I'd rather have trump as the nominee because there's no chance in Hell he'll win. These other guys at least have a small chance. Given the choice between a complete racist, anti-poor nutjob with no chance and a one of a group of slightly less racist people who are equally anti-poor and have a small chance, I'll take the former.

I would like to see the GOP rethink their direction, but I don't see that ever happening because the money is too entrenched. I certainly wouldn't trust some momentary change of direction going into an election, but it wouldn't surprise me if others did, maybe enough to swing the election to the GOP. So I'm hoping they stay the course with Trump at the top. Who knows, maybe we'll be so embarrassed as a nation that we'll actually look at changing the way things are done.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Bucky » Wed Dec 16, 2015 08:07:59

pacino wrote:Mike Rowe seems like an obtuse dope



yeah. he writes well and speaks well, but is captain of the "I WORKED HARD AND EVERYONE ELSE CAN BE WEALTHY TOO IF THEY JUST WORKED AS HARD" team

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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Dec 16, 2015 08:41:19

If Donald gets elected the good news is that we will get more Palin

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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby pacino » Wed Dec 16, 2015 08:45:53

Bucky wrote:
pacino wrote:Mike Rowe seems like an obtuse dope



yeah. he writes well and speaks well, but is captain of the "I WORKED HARD AND EVERYONE ELSE CAN BE WEALTHY TOO IF THEY JUST WORKED AS HARD" team

the #1 trending thing on FB last night was him tsk tsking bernie sanders for saying he wants people to go to college instead of prison. we get it, he didn't outright mention trades...does anyone truly think Bernie hates people in trades? his entire economic work plan centers around infrastructure and hiring people in construction and trades to BUILD things around our nation.

it's just weaksauce to go after Bernie on this, but I saw it all over FB last night and he kept saying 'im not political but'...but nothing. you were being purposefuly obtuse for whatever reason if you think that Bernie Sanders is not for the 'working man'.

fwiw, Rowe went to college for communication studies.
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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby JUburton » Wed Dec 16, 2015 09:40:34

how about christie talking about the LA bomb scare (which at that point was being treated as a hoax) as a way to fear monger terrorism a day after the anniversary of 24 children being murdered with guns. wat a world.

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Re: Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (poli

Postby Soren » Wed Dec 16, 2015 09:42:28

JUburton wrote:how about christie talking about the LA bomb scare (which at that point was being treated as a hoax) as a way to fear monger terrorism a day after the anniversary of 24 children being murdered with guns. wat a world.


TBF, the 24 children being murdered was a false flag and we should all come to terms with that.
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