Um, Donald I said you're demagogue, not a Demi-God (politics

by **Gimpy** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 23:53:58

Bernie's campaign is suing the DNC because of the crazy bullshit with voter data. I'm not a fan of Trump, but the fact that the two biggest anti-establishment candidates who have both sworn to fight money in politics are getting railroaded as much as possible by their respective committees is absolutely gross.

by **pacino** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 23:59:43

They copied some of Clinton's info. That's the problem. Obviously Bernie didn't do it but they need to show they deleted it then they'll be fine.

by **pacino** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 00:05:05

drinkin' with the New Mexico guv

by **Gimpy** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 00:06:19

Except they didn't. There's no evidence to suggest they did. The staffer logged on several times because he realized their own data was exposed. The system doesn't even allow copying. You'd have to screenshot each individual voter's data.

by **pacino** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 00:14:22

they 'saved' information

by **pacino** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 00:33:24

I don't think they should be cut off, though.

Imagine if Clinton's campaign did this, though

by **traderdave** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 08:44:05

This is not terribly surprising or anything but I thought it interesting re: the data breach -

"Stu Trevelyan, chief executive officer of DNC software vendor NGP VAN, acknowledged the breach in a statement and called it a "brief isolated issue" that was fixed and is now being reviewed.

According to his LinkedIn account, Trevelyan is a former campaign and White House staffer for Hillary Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton. He also donated $403.20 to Ready PAC - an outside group then known as Ready for Hillary PAC that supports Clinton - in December 2013, according to records filed with the Federal Election Commission."

I am not much of a conspiracy theorist but wouldn't it be something if this guy purposely dropped the firewall so that Clinton's campaign could get access to Sanders' voter data and Sanders' guy actually caught them?

by **TomatoPie** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 09:22:16

traderdave wrote:This is not terribly surprising or anything but I thought it interesting re: the data breach -

"Stu Trevelyan, chief executive officer of DNC software vendor NGP VAN, acknowledged the breach in a statement and called it a "brief isolated issue" that was fixed and is now being reviewed.

According to his LinkedIn account, Trevelyan is a former campaign and White House staffer for Hillary Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton. He also donated $403.20 to Ready PAC - an outside group then known as Ready for Hillary PAC that supports Clinton - in December 2013, according to records filed with the Federal Election Commission."

I am not much of a conspiracy theorist but wouldn't it be something if this guy purposely dropped the firewall so that Clinton's campaign could get access to Sanders' voter data and Sanders' guy actually caught them?

My theory is that the firewall was intentionally dropped - and the Clinton team arranged it, knowing that the Sanders team would breach it and then get caught.

by **Bucky** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 09:25:35

I'm curious about the specific use of the term "firewall". A firewall is a network "block" that prohibits network/protocol access between different systems. Even if they somehow did separate the data onto different systems, there still must be user credentialing on each system. So access should also have been prohibited that way.

Unless, of course, someone was just being lazy when they decided to use the term.

by **drsmooth** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 09:33:13

There should be a law, violation of which would be punishable by being forced to listen to politicians talk "authoritatively" about information technology forever, that any politician or politician's toady who utters a peep about information technology is subject to incarceration and the aforesaid summary punishment.

Someone help me with why candidates' presumably 'proprietary' data is somehow pooled at/by DNC HQ in the first place? I'm not clear on that and too lazy to try to figure out if the breathless "news coverage" gets at that

by **pacino** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:03:53

I love that Sanders is now the victim and Clinton the perp. Amazing.

She used a Jedi mind trick to make people on the Sanders campaign access and save the info on their own lists.

by **pacino** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:12:59

this is pathetic
This is bias

by **Bucky** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:55:42

Barry Soetoro was a foreign, crack-smoking, flamboyantly gay, pathological liar high school student

So says one of his friends!!

by **pacino** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:03:47

Wasserman-Schultz should be fired for putting debates on Saturdays

by **pacino** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:07:24

Bucky wrote:Barry Soetoro was a foreign, crack-smoking, flamboyantly gay, pathological liar high school student

So says one of his friends!!

So this guy just guaranteed he'll get interviews from Alex Jones types, which was probably his goal

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 19:12:34

TomatoPie wrote:...

Could never have imagined I'd vote for Hillary but she is clearly qualified for POTUS, unlike most of the GOP field.

I kinda wish HRC was prez after dubya's first term. I mean, a 12-yrs-younger-than-now Bill in the White House with nothing to do... would've been epic.

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 19:30:38

pacino wrote:

Harold N. Bornstein, M.D. ...

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 19:31:02

Bucky wrote:Barry Soetoro was a foreign, crack-smoking, flamboyantly gay, pathological liar high school student

So says one of his friends!!

In one breath?

by **pacino** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 20:42:27

Pension 'reform' bill killed in PA congress. Yay

by **pacino** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:54:30

UN is formally for a peaceful end to the Syrian civil war

On paper, the resolution is striking for its ambition. It places the political process to decide Mr. Assad’s future under United Nations auspices, making it far harder for Mr. Assad to control the vote, and specifically requires that all Syrians, “including members of the diaspora,” be allowed to participate in the vote. That language was created in Vienna in November by Mr. Kerry, who is betting that if Syrians around the world can participate in the vote, Mr. Assad will not be able to win.

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