by The Savior » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:13:02
SK790 wrote:drsmooth wrote:one of the "news" bits floating about is the finding of a Syrian passport on/near a self-blown-up guy, the insinuation being he's a blowed-up refugee omg!
A correspondent Fox's Smith is talking to notes French authorities believe that passport & other docs they've found at the sites may be fake/planted.
Pretty cool to try to fake evidence to try to fuel a horribly ignorant narrative.
by SK790 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:16:31
Soren wrote:Think I just need to not check social media for a week or so. The number of "you don't care about brown people, why are you sad about France" posts are getting to me.
by The Savior » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:17:16
SK790 wrote:Soren wrote:Think I just need to not check social media for a week or so. The number of "you don't care about brown people, why are you sad about France" posts are getting to me.
Imo, there can be a middle ground like it's fucked up this was barely cared about and now everyone cares and has an opinion. I know it makes people feel shitty to realize that we're largely self-centered people, but the fact that this shit happens frequently in parts of the world is glossed over all too often in the west, imo.
by SK790 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:18:49
The Savior wrote:SK790 wrote:drsmooth wrote:one of the "news" bits floating about is the finding of a Syrian passport on/near a self-blown-up guy, the insinuation being he's a blowed-up refugee omg!
A correspondent Fox's Smith is talking to notes French authorities believe that passport & other docs they've found at the sites may be fake/planted.
Pretty cool to try to fake evidence to try to fuel a horribly ignorant narrative.
Dude, you have no clue what is going on. Please leave or restrain from posting.
by The Savior » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:24:51
by drsmooth » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:30:18
The Savior wrote:Why would someone do that? If this was a decentralized attack (e.g. the core ISIS leadership was not involved), then leaving a Syrian-Passport at the scene of the crime would help draw that line so that ISIS could "take credit."
by SK790 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:31:06
The Savior wrote: not going to start an argument with you over nothing.
by philliesphhan » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:31:41
One of the suicide bombers in Friday's attacks has been identified as Ismael Omar Mostefai, according to a French member of Parliament. Mostefai lived in Chartres at least until 2012, said Jean-Pierre Gorges, who is mayor of the French town as well as a member of Parliament, via Facebook.
by The Dude » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:32:06
by SK790 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:34:10
by The Savior » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:37:38
drsmooth wrote:The Savior wrote:Why would someone do that? If this was a decentralized attack (e.g. the core ISIS leadership was not involved), then leaving a Syrian-Passport at the scene of the crime would help draw that line so that ISIS could "take credit."
why would someone do which? Point was having a piece of evidence is not necessarily having truth, yet
by The Savior » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:39:03
SK790 wrote:The Savior wrote: not going to start an argument with you over nothing.
You just did!
by Youseff » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:51:02
SK790 wrote:Soren wrote:Think I just need to not check social media for a week or so. The number of "you don't care about brown people, why are you sad about France" posts are getting to me.
Imo, there can be a middle ground like it's fucked up this was barely cared about and now everyone cares and has an opinion. I know it makes people feel shitty to realize that we're largely self-centered people, but the fact that this shit happens frequently in parts of the world is glossed over all too often in the west, imo.
by The Savior » Sat Nov 14, 2015 23:06:17
Youseff wrote:SK790 wrote:Soren wrote:Think I just need to not check social media for a week or so. The number of "you don't care about brown people, why are you sad about France" posts are getting to me.
Imo, there can be a middle ground like it's fucked up this was barely cared about and now everyone cares and has an opinion. I know it makes people feel shitty to realize that we're largely self-centered people, but the fact that this shit happens frequently in parts of the world is glossed over all too often in the west, imo.
agreed, my friend tried to play this perspective with me yesterday - that this happens all the time in other countries and we don't care. I found it to be a really callous perspective and slightly snide comment but one that was at it's core truthful.
by The Savior » Sat Nov 14, 2015 23:07:13
by The Dude » Sat Nov 14, 2015 23:49:04
by drsmooth » Sun Nov 15, 2015 00:14:53
The Savior wrote:
sorry - was answering the hypothetical question "why would a terrorist conveniently leave his syrian passport"
hypothesizing that the terrorist(s) would want people to know who did this.
by The Savior » Sun Nov 15, 2015 00:19:53
by WilliamC » Sun Nov 15, 2015 00:58:27
by TomatoPie » Sun Nov 15, 2015 07:05:15
kruker wrote:Soren wrote:Think I just need to not check social media for a week or so. The number of "you don't care about brown people, why are you sad about France" posts are getting to me.
The whole "Why didn't we mourn for Lebanon" thing is a weird critique to me. Obviously the point trying to be made is that we only care when it's white people, but there are other components there that are just being glossed over. I care about France more because we have very real connections to French culture. Obviously we have a long history with France being an ally of ours. It's just #$!&@ to automatically turn it into this "where were you all when Lebanon happened" racist critique. France is closer to home for myriad reasons.
