WSJ: One suicide bomber had a ticket to the game. He was denied access after the bomb was discovered via a pat-down at the security checkpoint. Backed away from security then detonated.

The plan is starting to become clear. Detonate inside and cause an immediate panic with people running out of the stadium and rescue personnel speeding there. Detonate the others during the chaos for massive amount of casualties. The individual or individuals who identified the first attacker likely saved the lives of countless people. I'll reiterate the point that it's incredible fortunate (or just plain lucky) that it took 3 suicide bombers to kill just 1 innocent civilian.

I'm starting to assume that they continued to play the game yesterday as a means to not incite a panic among the crowd. If that was a conscious decisions by the leadership in that stadium, it was a very, very smart one.

The Savior wrote:I'm starting to assume that they continued to play the game yesterday as a means to not incite a panic among the crowd. If that was a conscious decisions by the leadership in that stadium, it was a very, very smart one.

I believe that was indeed the case. Besides, they probably realized/assumed that all were safer insde the stadium than outside.

The what could have been at the stadium is horrifying.

drsmooth wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:The fact that I'm being called a bigot says more about you than it does me. I'm a realist. And I'm getting information from someone who's actually living it, not watching it on TV from the comfort of their own couch.

What's going on in Greece and all of Europe is a problem that the locals do not want to deal with. Yes, some politicians and governments are saying the right things but the people of these countries do not want the migrants there.

And you know what? I don't blame them.

imagine if you will that the those migrants never wanted to be migrants. That forces bigger than them, or you, or me, brought about their migration. That hating on them makes haters stupid, if only because they're not directing most of their hate on the responsible parties

me, I hate everybody

ISIS has been terrorizing people in the region of Iraq and Syria for a while now and no one gave a shit

pacino wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:The fact that I'm being called a bigot says more about you than it does me. I'm a realist. And I'm getting information from someone who's actually living it, not watching it on TV from the comfort of their own couch.

What's going on in Greece and all of Europe is a problem that the locals do not want to deal with. Yes, some politicians and governments are saying the right things but the people of these countries do not want the migrants there.

And you know what? I don't blame them.

imagine if you will that the those migrants never wanted to be migrants. That forces bigger than them, or you, or me, brought about their migration. That hating on them makes haters stupid, if only because they're not directing most of their hate on the responsible parties

me, I hate everybody

ISIS has been terrorizing people in the region of Iraq and Syria for a while now and no one gave a shit

tbf they were terrorizing brown people

thats a joke. i mean, an unfortunately true one i guess.

i know it's a joke, no worries.

i just tire a little bit of the response to this compared to the response from Lebanon where something very similar just happened. And the people on the side of 'we just need to get rid of the muslims' don't seem to care to get that the vasty majority of the people being terrorized are also muslims. this was horrible, but so was Beirut. The proportionality of the response just gets to me a little.

Vox has published ISIS claim of responsibility.

Vox notes that unlike many such claims this one provides no details about the blown-up stooges who carried it out - which may be an indicator that ISIS's claiming responsibility without having actually done it.

Imagine the world inside your head being as tiny, misshapen, and dark as that occupying the malnourished braincells of the blown-up chumps. What pathetic suckers. How best to get between them and the manipulative cowards who pushed their buttons?

lol

drsmooth wrote:Vox has published ISIS claim of responsibility.

Vox notes that unlike many such claims this one provides no details about the blown-up stooges who carried it out - which may be an indicator that ISIS's claiming responsibility without having actually done it.

Imagine the world inside your head being as tiny, misshapen, and dark as that occupying the malnourished braincells of the blown-up chumps. What pathetic suckers. How best to get between them and the manipulative cowards who pushed their buttons?

offer them xboxes

or a job

pacino wrote:i just tire a little bit of the response to this compared to the response from Lebanon where something very similar just happened.

Exactly. This is horrible, but it also is shocking because we don't expect it in Western democracies.

This is uncomfortably close to daily living in other parts of the world, including the parts those refugees are fleeing.

I can't say I know what the response is, but my knee-jerk reaction is to grant ISIS its wish, recognize it, so it can be legally invaded and annihilated, wherever its -ahem - "seat of government" actually is.

But that is my irrational overreaction. They aren't a state, despite their claims to the contrary. They are more like an idea, and a bad one.

drsmooth wrote:Vox has published ISIS claim of responsibility.

Vox notes that unlike many such claims this one provides no details about the blown-up stooges who carried it out - which may be an indicator that ISIS's claiming responsibility without having actually done it.

Imagine the world inside your head being as tiny, misshapen, and dark as that occupying the malnourished braincells of the blown-up chumps. What pathetic suckers. How best to get between them and the manipulative cowards who pushed their buttons?

3 of them pushed the respective button and killed only 1 person. good training there. cowards.

The Savior wrote:

drsmooth wrote:Vox has published ISIS claim of responsibility.

Vox notes that unlike many such claims this one provides no details about the blown-up stooges who carried it out - which may be an indicator that ISIS's claiming responsibility without having actually done it.

Imagine the world inside your head being as tiny, misshapen, and dark as that occupying the malnourished braincells of the blown-up chumps. What pathetic suckers. How best to get between them and the manipulative cowards who pushed their buttons?

3 of them pushed the respective button and killed only 1 person. good training there. cowards.

the good thing is these guys usually suck

drsmooth wrote:Vox has published ISIS claim of responsibility.

Vox notes that unlike many such claims this one provides no details about the blown-up stooges who carried it out - which may be an indicator that ISIS's claiming responsibility without having actually done it.

Imagine the world inside your head being as tiny, misshapen, and dark as that occupying the malnourished braincells of the blown-up chumps. What pathetic suckers. How best to get between them and the manipulative cowards who pushed their buttons?

I did wonder about whether this was really ISIS right from the outset... claiming responsibility, if it isn't them, seems a curious move, because, to the extent that ISIS occupies a fixed, physical location - they have ensure that location is fuuuuuuucked.

pacino wrote:

The Savior wrote:

drsmooth wrote:Vox has published ISIS claim of responsibility.

Vox notes that unlike many such claims this one provides no details about the blown-up stooges who carried it out - which may be an indicator that ISIS's claiming responsibility without having actually done it.

Imagine the world inside your head being as tiny, misshapen, and dark as that occupying the malnourished braincells of the blown-up chumps. What pathetic suckers. How best to get between them and the manipulative cowards who pushed their buttons?

3 of them pushed the respective button and killed only 1 person. good training there. cowards.

the good thing is these guys usually suck

Because they are usually maladjusted and disaffected teen-twentysomethings, not effective soldiers.

the fact that this may not be directly attributable to senior ISIS leadership makes it all the more worrisome from a big-picture perspective.

ISIS is slowly losing their grip so they are lashing out, if it's indeed them.

The US carried out an attack last night in Libya against a senior ISIS leader (unrelated to the events in Paris). Sources believe the mission was a success (e.g. sources believe he is dead). First time the US has hunted ISIS beyond Iraq and Syria, to my knowledge.

pacino wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:The fact that I'm being called a bigot says more about you than it does me. I'm a realist. And I'm getting information from someone who's actually living it, not watching it on TV from the comfort of their own couch.

What's going on in Greece and all of Europe is a problem that the locals do not want to deal with. Yes, some politicians and governments are saying the right things but the people of these countries do not want the migrants there.

And you know what? I don't blame them.

imagine if you will that the those migrants never wanted to be migrants. That forces bigger than them, or you, or me, brought about their migration. That hating on them makes haters stupid, if only because they're not directing most of their hate on the responsible parties

me, I hate everybody

ISIS has been terrorizing people in the region of Iraq and Syria for a while now and no one gave a shit

Previously unknown group ISIS carries out attacks in Paris, world turns its eye to the Middle East