Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby SK790 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:04:46

Ben Carson thinks stricter gun control would lead to a Nazi Germany style extermination of American people, but Trump thinks registering all Muslims is a great idea. So good, he can't believe he thought of it!

This is real life.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby smitty » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:15:36

Roger Dorn wrote:Honestly for all this talk and pomp about being "home of the brave" this country is filled with a shit ton of cowards who live in a perpetual state of fear.


Agreed. We've been terrorized as a Country from nearly the very beginning. We had a goddam Civil War that was bloody as hell.

It's funny. The scared people on FACEBOOK try way too hard to talk tough.

Some people need to man up.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby drsmooth » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:45:14




For guys who are stewards of a shitpile of inherited dough, it's pretty clear they have been and are being hosed by a huge number of snake-oil "intelligence" peddlers. I don't have detailed metrics but their wins-to-spending ratio seems kind of unimpressive.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:59:08

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby drsmooth » Fri Nov 20, 2015 13:44:37

Trump picked a good week to casually allow as to how he'd require Muslim US citizens (presumably only them and no one of other religious affiliations) to carry a special ID card and be logged in a database and other completely screwed-up shit that every other "legitimate" R candidate should be called on to disavow as anything their party would abide, but none has, really, so far, so how can candidates of that party actually even show their faces in public in the US, much actually win any election, here in the United States of FUCKING America ffs?

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Fri Nov 20, 2015 13:47:24

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Nov 20, 2015 14:07:39

so do almost half of blacks according to that survey. maybe these things just aren't very meaningful other than highlighting that people are misinformed and not very smart

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Nov 20, 2015 15:07:51

drsmooth wrote:Trump picked a good week to casually allow as to how he'd require Muslim US citizens (presumably only them and no one of other religious affiliations) to carry a special ID card and be logged in a database and other completely screwed-up shit that every other "legitimate" R candidate should be called on to disavow as anything their party would abide, but none has, really, so far, so how can candidates of that party actually even show their faces in public in the US, much actually win any election, here in the United States of FUCKING America ffs?

Hoping Jerz has some views on this he might share


I honestly can't believe how long Trump has hung up there, along with Carson. I keep thinking they will falter, but the tea partiers seem to have completely taken over the party. I'm now of the mind that we should give those people a loud voice, a megaphone even, so they can let everyone know what kind of people are driving the agenda for the Grand Old party. Actually they should change the name of the party to the old grand dad shaking his fist at everything party.

I guess this isn't the first time that blatant open racism has had a voice in american politics, but I'm still shocked at the brazenness of it all. I mean, the guy in the lead less than a year from the election is openly calling for people to be forced to carry cards. They are so obsessed with calling liberals nazis, yet they don't see the irony.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Youseff » Fri Nov 20, 2015 17:20:33

“Ben Carson likened Muslims to dogs, Donald Trump said he would force Muslims to carry special IDs and start a deportation militia, and every other Republican seems to be on the side of violent Islamophobia. Why has such violent, dangerous rhetoric become socially acceptable?”

– Sayyid in Hartford, CT

You have to realize that, while repugnant to all good people including the Dig, picking on a vulnerable minority actually makes for good politics. As my good friend Chris Cillizza noted, stirring up racial hatred is simply smart politics as it helps Republicans win primaries. Under my model of the 2016 GOP electorate, I estimate about 10% of voters are firmly in the “crypto-fascist” camp. These folks like private gun ownership, crisp uniforms, and racist vigilantism — and they want a candidate who echoes those values. With the Presidential primary as close as it’s ever been, it would be a death sentence for any candidate to abandon these voters by coming out against the pogroms and race war they fervently want.


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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Nov 20, 2015 17:46:08

The GOP does not want to win the Presidency in the near future do they? It's abhorrent.

The sad thing with gerrymandering and "local" politics they should keep doing well in the House and possibly the Senate.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby smitty » Fri Nov 20, 2015 18:14:31

Monkeyboy wrote:
drsmooth wrote:Trump picked a good week to casually allow as to how he'd require Muslim US citizens (presumably only them and no one of other religious affiliations) to carry a special ID card and be logged in a database and other completely screwed-up shit that every other "legitimate" R candidate should be called on to disavow as anything their party would abide, but none has, really, so far, so how can candidates of that party actually even show their faces in public in the US, much actually win any election, here in the United States of FUCKING America ffs?

Hoping Jerz has some views on this he might share


I honestly can't believe how long Trump has hung up there, along with Carson. I keep thinking they will falter, but the tea partiers seem to have completely taken over the party. I'm now of the mind that we should give those people a loud voice, a megaphone even, so they can let everyone know what kind of people are driving the agenda for the Grand Old party. Actually they should change the name of the party to the old grand dad shaking his fist at everything party.

I guess this isn't the first time that blatant open racism has had a voice in american politics, but I'm still shocked at the brazenness of it all. I mean, the guy in the lead less than a year from the election is openly calling for people to be forced to carry cards. They are so obsessed with calling liberals nazis, yet they don't see the irony.


Trump tells it like it is!! He's got guts. He says what politicians are afraid to say. He talks loud. He's a great game show guy. He knows how to spend billions of dollars on beautiful fences and deporting folks who work hard and benefit the nation. And spend billions to make the military the strongest in the world even though it already is by a lot. And reduce taxes. And everyone will have a beautiful job. He can negotiate. As long as his foot doesn't act up.

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby SK790 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 19:04:22

Youseff wrote:
“Ben Carson likened Muslims to dogs, Donald Trump said he would force Muslims to carry special IDs and start a deportation militia, and every other Republican seems to be on the side of violent Islamophobia. Why has such violent, dangerous rhetoric become socially acceptable?”

– Sayyid in Hartford, CT

You have to realize that, while repugnant to all good people including the Dig, picking on a vulnerable minority actually makes for good politics. As my good friend Chris Cillizza noted, stirring up racial hatred is simply smart politics as it helps Republicans win primaries. Under my model of the 2016 GOP electorate, I estimate about 10% of voters are firmly in the “crypto-fascist” camp. These folks like private gun ownership, crisp uniforms, and racist vigilantism — and they want a candidate who echoes those values. With the Presidential primary as close as it’s ever been, it would be a death sentence for any candidate to abandon these voters by coming out against the pogroms and race war they fervently want.


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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Monkeyboy » Sat Nov 21, 2015 07:15:22

SK790 wrote:
Youseff wrote:
“Ben Carson likened Muslims to dogs, Donald Trump said he would force Muslims to carry special IDs and start a deportation militia, and every other Republican seems to be on the side of violent Islamophobia. Why has such violent, dangerous rhetoric become socially acceptable?”

– Sayyid in Hartford, CT

You have to realize that, while repugnant to all good people including the Dig, picking on a vulnerable minority actually makes for good politics. As my good friend Chris Cillizza noted, stirring up racial hatred is simply smart politics as it helps Republicans win primaries. Under my model of the 2016 GOP electorate, I estimate about 10% of voters are firmly in the “crypto-fascist” camp. These folks like private gun ownership, crisp uniforms, and racist vigilantism — and they want a candidate who echoes those values. With the Presidential primary as close as it’s ever been, it would be a death sentence for any candidate to abandon these voters by coming out against the pogroms and race war they fervently want.


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This is pretty accurate and it's really hard to believe people aren't catching it. I'm hoping that these guys are just hanging in there with it being a primary and the electorate as a whole will turn to Hillary (or someone else) in droves. If the average people are paying attention, really paying attention, then I think the GOP is sunk for at least the presidency this cycle. The alternative is that our nation is MUCH more racist and stupid than I thought. This really isn't a matter of opinion anymore. The GOP has become a machine for the wealthy and they are perfectly fine cutting off women and the poor at the knees.This isn't a bug in their program, it's a feature.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby SK790 » Sat Nov 21, 2015 07:39:43

tbh, the whole reaction to the refugees is gross to me and i feel like this country is doomed due to willful ignorance of the public. the right plays on it way more than the left does, even though lefties have their moments(anti-vax, anti-GMO, crazy conspiracies, etc...) the right on a fundamental basis displays ignorance on topics that really impact people's lives. whether it'd be these refugees or planned parenthood, or demonizing homosexuals for the better part of a half century.

i know both sides have crazies, but on the left, the only people i find actually reprehensible are the anti-vax people. meanwhile, on the right you have racists, xenophobes, homophones, people who actively work against the poor, gun nuts, MRAs, etc... the balance of gross interest groups is far skewed to one side, imo. i guess that's how they win, tho. accept the people whose platforms are hateful/harmful in nature then play to them. unfortunately, they've done a great job cobbling enough of those groups together to win consistently.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:15:28

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby SK790 » Sat Nov 21, 2015 18:20:27

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/20/politics/ ... index.html

Registering gun owners is tyranny, but a government database on everyone is good, will keep us safe.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby SK790 » Sat Nov 21, 2015 20:06:22

Trump supporters assault BLM protester at Trump rally: http://m.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ ... -1.2442688
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Sat Nov 21, 2015 20:18:59

They already assaulted a Latino guy, may as well go for all the cards
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Gimpy » Sat Nov 21, 2015 22:09:15

SK790 wrote:Trump supporters assault BLM protester at Trump rally: http://m.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ ... -1.2442688


Considering how aggressive some people have been while claiming to be BLM supporters, I really can't get up in arms about this without really knowing what happened to start it off. Honestly, I think this is the reaction a lot of these protestors are actually looking for.

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby SK790 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 08:30:27

Lolok.
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