Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Phred » Thu Nov 19, 2015 09:38:04

drsmooth wrote:
MoBettle wrote:An application takes 18-24 months to process. I'm sure they're not actually doing 18-24 months of vetting. Especially given that Syria doesn't exactly have our infrastructure/personal records databases. A lot of what goes on there is off the grid.

There's definitely a decent amount of uncertainty with a lot of these refugees. It's just a question of whether that's too big of a risk.

Don't confuse bureaucratic backlog with thoroughness though.


Insane suicide bombers are men - ok, "boys", with serious psychiatric problems and perverted "religious" beliefs - in a hurry. The very length of time it takes to plod through the intake process suggests they're more likely to find a way into northern Canada and ride a moose across the border into Montana than patiently wait around a year and a half or more on the chance they slip through a bureaucratic process and become one of the TWO PERCENT of military-age Syrian guys likely to be admitted ever.


Fuck that. I've seen Homeland. Those terrorists are patient fucks.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Nov 19, 2015 09:47:12

ok, but hiding under your bed is gonna get cramped, what with Jeb?, Cruz, and Turnip under there with you right out of the gate
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Phred » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:09:24

I agree with you. I was just being a dick in my previous post.

I think that we have to let the refugees in and if any get in and turn out to be terrorists then that is a consequence with which we have to deal.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:33:08

some politicians are now talking about internment camps...
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Phred » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:53:41

pacino wrote:some politicians are now talking about internment camps...


I think that is a great idea! Do we get to vote on which politicians get interned in the camps or are they selected another way?
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:56:14

Boko Haram is launching suicide bombers again in Nigeria, likely lashing out due to their inability to hold territory. 32 were killed in one, 15 in another. :cry:

DAKAR, Senegal — A blast in the northeastern Nigerian city of Yola on Tuesday night tore through a marketplace, killing 32 people and wounding 80 others, according to the local authorities and witnesses.
The blast occurred at 8 p.m. at a market filled with shoppers stocking up on fruits and vegetables for dinner, turning the area into a horrific scene of blood, bodies and mayhem.

Now that Nigeria is not as corrupt, they've properly taken the fight to BH:

Earlier on Tuesday, Mr. Buhari ordered the arrest of the former president’s national security adviser, Sambo Dasuki, accusing him of stealing more than $2 billion that Mr. Buhari said should have gone to pay for weapons to fight Boko Haram.

Mr. Dasuki, whom Mr. Buhari quickly fired along with other top military officials upon taking office, pleaded not guilty last month to other money laundering charges and released a statement saying he was surprised by the recent action.
Nigeria has been working with neighboring countries to root out Boko Haram and is receiving guidance from American and French military officials.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Phred » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:59:39

Actually, serious question...where do the refugees go between now and the time that their background check clears (which could take up to 2 years)?
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:04:16

FAQs

they wait elsewhere in a resettlement center, only allowed to travel to the US once the process is completed.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Phred » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:23:00

pacino wrote:FAQs

they wait elsewhere in a resettlement center, only allowed to travel to the US once the process is completed.



Much obliged!
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:04:46

2 years: the length of a congresscritter's term. And a bunch of them are all eager to hurry up and pause a process that takes - look at that! - about the same amount of time.

Not sure 'pause' is the label you want for your big initiative as a leader, but hey, Paulie has a big brain. A biiiiiiig brain.

Listening to HRC delivering a foreign policy speech at Council on Foreign Relations (Richard Haass - ick, has a Cheyneyan zest for Constant War). Trying to picture Trump doing a speech like this.

Nope, can't do it.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 19, 2015 13:06:20

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Nov 19, 2015 22:18:50

I'm starting to think that Trump is pulling The Wave on us

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(novel)
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Nov 20, 2015 05:46:28

pacino wrote:some politicians are now talking about internment camps...

Hmm. Fence off a large swath of land, say, the size of Delaware... or Delaware. Free-range. Like cattle.

Trump can build that fence and make Syria pay for it.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Nov 20, 2015 05:47:55

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Fri Nov 20, 2015 09:25:58

Clinton's speech at the CFR was perplexing; she wants to 'broaden' airstrikes in Syria. What does this accomplish? We are doing, seemingly, targeted airstrikes. She did say she wants to use special forces (ground forces) to point out airstrikes to do; this seems like a much more fruitful strategy than 'broad' strikes that could potentially hit unintend targets.

she also said she wanted to use local troops because we need to win with ground troops; but we HAVE been trying to use local troops. we've wasted lots of money to not train people properly. if your assertion is that we need ground troops, and we can't train ground troops, we will have to fill that void somehow...

she also mentioned Iraq and stated we need a 'Sunni awakening', likely due to the fact that Iraqis (Shia) from the south don't give two shits about the people in the north in their own country. I'm not sure how you go about that, though.

a coalition no-fly zone! limited, though, towards Turkish border

She also wants to play the long game, meaning winning the online recruitment battle and present an alternative to jihadism.

So, more intelligence, smarter bombing, better ground troops, help them help themselves. HRC will do it!
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Fri Nov 20, 2015 09:51:22

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:01:53

darn muslims want to build a mosque to worship on property they own, PROVING THEY ARE TERRORISTS

Samer Shalaby, a civil engineer and member of the Islamic Center of Fredericksburg, was discussing plans for the new worship center at a Spotsylvania County meeting, on property the Muslim community owns, WUSA9 reports.

Video of the meeting shows a burly man yelling and pointing his finger at Shalaby.

“Every one of you are terrorists, I don’t care what you say,” he yells. “Every Muslim is a terrorist.”

He also tells Shalaby, “Shut your mouth. I don’t want to hear your mouth. I will do everything that I can do to keep you from doing what you’re doing. It will happen. That will happen.”

Another American flag and hat-wearing man is also seen yelling and pointing at Shalaby, who is holding a poster board with a building outline.

“This is evil,” the man shouts.

“It was almost like a mob-type thing,” Shalaby told WUSA9. The Muslim community has been at the same location for about 30 years.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Roger Dorn » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:36:31

Honestly for all this talk and pomp about being "home of the brave" this country is filled with a shit ton of cowards who live in a perpetual state of fear.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:45:12

their amygdalas are being stimulated
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