The Nightman Cometh wrote:This thread is only great because of jerseyhoya. Does he overstate the truthiness of his position with complete confidence sometimes? (Iran deal) Yea, but we do it too, it just doesn't annoy us so we don't notice our biases.

Lashing out at him for correctly pointing out Bernie has no chance is weird.

Werthless wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

pacino wrote:No, Iranians are not inspecting themselves while having large cartoonish bombs behind their backs

This article does nothing to contradict the AP's reporting from yesterday other than to say the AP retracted their story when they didn't.

You sound more like Dick Morris every day. What's your position on podophilia?

-AP breaks story yesterday about Iran being largely responsible for carrying out its own inspections at Parchin
-AP overnight edits the copy removing some details to create space to add more reaction quotes for what they send out to their print subscribers
-Liberal sites such as Vox, Talking Points Memo (who said the story sounded eye poppingly scary before the most important details were 'scrubbed'), and pacino's Haaretz link jump all over the edits, claiming AP stealthily retracted the meat of the story
-AP explains they didn't retract anything, the updated online version was what they sent to their print subscribers, and they restore the cut details to the online version of the story
-To quell the continuing complaints for how they handled the story, AP releases the transcript of the draft memo, demonstrating that Iran is largely responsible for carrying out its own inspections at Parchin
-Liberal responses shift to "Oh Parchin isn't that important anyway" and "They can look at it with satellites" (see pacino's reaction...glad I'm the only one who has a team to give him talking points)
-docsmooth shuffles in at 1 AM, calls me Dick Morris for saying something anyone who had been following the story online today knew was true 10 hours ago

Honestly, why do you bother? There has to be a better board for engaging folks on politics. This thread is all hot takes and name calling. Probably why reasonable people like dajafi no longer post. I feel like an idiot just for reading this thread, and learning all about Bernie Sanders' libertarian following. I'm just waiting for the growing contradiction that is docsmooth's misogyny and blind loyalty to the Democratic party to come to a crushing head.

Werthless wrote:Honestly, why do you bother?

Doll Is Mine wrote:If I'm the Democrats, I do everything I can to convince Elizabeth Warren to run. Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate in 2008 and she's a flawed candidate now.

I'm planning on voting for Bernie Sanders but I don't see him winning the general. Warren would win pretty easily however.

Phan In Phlorida wrote:- North Korea approves "final attack" on South Korea

- Kim Jong Un has ordered border troops into "wartime state"

- South Korean official says North Korea broke the ceasefire agreement

- South Korea orders troops to prepare for war


Korean war scheduled for tomorrow.

Bucky wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:If I'm the Democrats, I do everything I can to convince Elizabeth Warren to run. Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate in 2008 and she's a flawed candidate now.

I'm planning on voting for Bernie Sanders but I don't see him winning the general. Warren would win pretty easily however.

Only one of Bernie / Elizabeth can run. If they both run, they split the progressive vote and Hillary walks to November.

Doll Is Mine wrote:If I'm the Democrats, I do everything I can to convince Elizabeth Warren to run. Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate in 2008 and she's a flawed candidate now.

I'm planning on voting for Bernie Sanders but I don't see him winning the general. Warren would win pretty easily however.

phatj wrote:Oops, should have posted this in this thread:

SK790 wrote:Say what you will about Bernie, but his campaign has been by far the most successful so far. People are talking about him and not just far lefties, either. He's got a lot of "libertarians" on his side as well. The fact that he's the only candidate out there that is fighting for 2 of the things people most want(income equality and campaign finance reform) shouldn't be overlooked.

I still think he'll lose to HRC, but his ceiling has gone from "maybe making a few states interesting and make HRC campaign on far left issues" to "maybe challenging for the nomination". Gotta keep the momentum going.

I would like to know about actual libertarians who support Sanders.

Doll Is Mine wrote:Do you get the sense that Hillary is flawed or am I overreacting?

Brantt wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:If I'm the Democrats, I do everything I can to convince Elizabeth Warren to run. Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate in 2008 and she's a flawed candidate now.

I'm planning on voting for Bernie Sanders but I don't see him winning the general. Warren would win pretty easily however.

I don't think Warren would have a shot in hell to win in the general election. Sanders either.

Doll Is Mine wrote:If I'm the Democrats, I do everything I can to convince Elizabeth Warren to run. Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate in 2008 and she's a flawed candidate now.

I'm planning on voting for Bernie Sanders but I don't see him winning the general. Warren would win pretty easily however.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (8.32) falls furthest to the left on the chart, followed closely by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (8.24)

smitty wrote:

Brantt wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:If I'm the Democrats, I do everything I can to convince Elizabeth Warren to run. Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate in 2008 and she's a flawed candidate now.

I'm planning on voting for Bernie Sanders but I don't see him winning the general. Warren would win pretty easily however.

I don't think Warren would have a shot in hell to win in the general election. Sanders either.

I think she would have a shot. A lot can happen and her competition is not exactly exciting. Clinton is a mess and always has been. The Repubs are headed by the Donald right now. Most of the real candidates will probably have to say/do dumb stuff to combat him.

She might Obama right in.

Werthless wrote:Nobody is basing their vote on a candidate's stance on campaign finance reform. And it's really hard to come up with people, outside of those that are socialists, that want equal income. Really, that is what "most people want," income equality for all?

Edits: typos galore.

Werthless wrote:

phatj wrote:Oops, should have posted this in this thread:

SK790 wrote:Say what you will about Bernie, but his campaign has been by far the most successful so far. People are talking about him and not just far lefties, either. He's got a lot of "libertarians" on his side as well. The fact that he's the only candidate out there that is fighting for 2 of the things people most want(income equality and campaign finance reform) shouldn't be overlooked.

I still think he'll lose to HRC, but his ceiling has gone from "maybe making a few states interesting and make HRC campaign on far left issues" to "maybe challenging for the nomination". Gotta keep the momentum going.

I would like to know about actual libertarians who support Sanders.

Nobody is basing their vote on a candidate's stance on campaign finance reform. And it's really hard to come up with people, outside of those that are socialists, that want equal income. Really, that is what "most people want," income equality for all?

Edits: typos galore.