Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 16:39:34

The Nightman Cometh wrote:
karn wrote:I mean it really is amazing how one sided that agreement has been economically and yet it seemingly hasn't benefited Mexico enough to keep its people from wanting to escape

Mexico is the 2nd most violent country in the Western Hemisphere, not much mystery to this


and mexico city is running out of water.
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Thu Aug 27, 2015 17:15:56

Didn't know if I should put this in the minion thread or here...

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Aug 28, 2015 08:21:55

Michael Brown won't go away

I want to hurt him
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Aug 28, 2015 09:13:59

up to 50 refugees found suffocated in a locked truck in Austria:
A police spokesman said in a press conference that "it could be 50 people" inside the lorry. "We can assume that it could be 20 people who

died. It could also be 40, it could be 50 people," he said.

Tens of thousands of people have been making their way across Europe, fleeing violence - many of them from Syria and Afghanistan.

It is understood that the lorry's licence plates are Hungarian, and Hungarian authorities are helping the Austrians to try and locate the driver.

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby TomatoPie » Fri Aug 28, 2015 09:26:37

Roger Dorn wrote:Yeah I keep laughing when people say Trump doesn't have a chance and he's going to disappear. His polling numbers continue to rise every week. It's absurd.


You should get a laugh too when his campaign is a distant memory. "How could anyone ever have regarded him as a serious candidate?"
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Aug 28, 2015 09:39:31

this piece shows how Arthur Laffer views the world and also why Donald Trump is resonating:

It was the first thing Arthur Laffer, the famed supply side economist and informal adviser to much of the GOP field, brought up in a recent interview about the real estate mogul. Laffer dislikes Trump's support of immigration restrictions and tariffs on imports from China, but he delights in how Trump proclaims, in Laffer's words, "I’m rich! I’m rich and I love it!"

"He’s not ashamed of it!" Laffer said. "That’s what you want for your kids, isn’t it? He’s just coming out and saying it.”

He contrasted that stance with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who often tells crowds about how his Cuban immigrant parents struggled to make ends meet when he was growing up. “They couldn’t make it, is what he’s saying,” Laffer said. “It shows me that he doesn’t hold in honor the economic success that I do. When I look at a rich person, I don’t think, here’s a lying cheating so and so. I think, here’s a guy who made it!”


"I would say that the hedge fund people make a lot of money and they pay very little tax. I'm about the middle class. I want the middle class to be thriving again. We're losing our middle-class. ... I would let people that are making hundreds of millions of dollars a year pay some tax, because right now they're paying very little tax, and I think it's outrageous. I want to lower taxes for the middle class."

Asked if he was proposing to raise taxes on himself, Trump replied: "That's right. That's right. I'm okay with it, ready, willing. And you've seen my statements. I mean I do very well. I don't mind paying some tax. The middle class is getting clobbered in this country. The middle class built this country, not the hedge fund guys. But I know people in hedge funds, they pay almost nothing, and it's ridiculous, okay?"
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby traderdave » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:54:42

Trump sounds an awful lot like a Democrat there. Maybe he also had a secret meeting with Elizabeth Warren.

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby td11 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:05:04

i am genuinely surprised to read that. he holds at least one position i agree with
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby Bucky » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:15:15

the cynic in me says he (and his advisors) is now believing he actually has a shot and needed to come up with some talking points to broaden his appeal.

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:24:07

td11 wrote:i am genuinely surprised to read that. he holds at least one position i agree with

Former registered Democrat who has given a half a million dollars to Democrats holds a number of orthodox Democrat positions. Story at 11.

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:29:32

thinking the rich should pay their fair share and racism is making him popular with a good part of your party. news at 11
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby drsmooth » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:34:49

td11 wrote:....he holds [a]... position....


we'll see
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:35:41

Five months before a single ballot is cast, Hillary has 1/5th the delegates necessary to be the nominee.

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby td11 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:35:57

jerseyhoya wrote:
td11 wrote:i am genuinely surprised to read that. he holds at least one position i agree with

Former registered Democrat who has given a half a million dollars to Democrats holds a number of orthodox Democrat positions. Story at 11.

you just want to do anything you can to disown him
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby traderdave » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:48:15

jerseyhoya wrote:Five months before a single ballot is cast, Hillary has 1/5th the delegates necessary to be the nominee.


You guys have MUCH better memories than I but I could swear Clinton's camp said something similar back in '08. How did that work out?

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:00:45

traderdave wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Five months before a single ballot is cast, Hillary has 1/5th the delegates necessary to be the nominee.


You guys have MUCH better memories than I but I could swear Clinton's camp said something similar back in '08. How did that work out?

A lot of them would likely flip in the event of actual voters going in a different direction, as there would be trepidation at overturning will of the electorate (but this could be a cushion if she wins popular vote but loses delegates due to caucuses or something).

But her lead over Obama/Edwards in 2008 was not in the same universe as this.

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby smitty » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:37:38

pacino wrote:thinking the rich should pay their fair share and racism is making him popular with a good part of your party. news at 11


From some sources, the rich pay More than their share.

http://www.economics21.org/commentary/r ... -2015-1-09
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:48:57

smitty wrote:
pacino wrote:thinking the rich should pay their fair share and racism is making him popular with a good part of your party. news at 11


From some sources, the rich pay More than their share.

http://www.economics21.org/commentary/r ... -2015-1-09

that's an interesting way he presents both the figures and the debate around taxes.
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby smitty » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:50:22

pacino wrote:
smitty wrote:
pacino wrote:thinking the rich should pay their fair share and racism is making him popular with a good part of your party. news at 11


From some sources, the rich pay More than their share.

http://www.economics21.org/commentary/r ... -2015-1-09

that's an interesting way he presents both the figures and the debate around taxes.


Here's another:

http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/12/news/ec ... ich-taxes/

Another way to look at it:

http://www.businessinsider.com/no-the-r ... es-2013-12
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:51:05

Well, it's not so much rich/poor. Trump is arguing that an odd wrinkle in the tax code (the carried interest deduction, if I'm not mistaken) allows a few really rich people to avoid a bunch of taxes. Trump himself probably doesn't benefit much from that deduction.
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