All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Oct 09, 2012 14:10:00

It's a shame we still don't know any specifics about Mitt's ideas or what his tax return says. While you and I were paying a good % of our wages in taxes, Mitt was hiding his money in foreign countries, shipping our wealth overseas along with our jobs.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Oct 09, 2012 14:12:41

A republican friend told me Obama has no record to run on and that he has accomplished nothing in office. I brought up a few things that I thought were big deals and he just shrugged them off. It is hard to have conversations when people refuse to live in reality. That's what I mostly hate about politics.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 14:39:05

Darrel Issa (R-CA), the committee chairman leading House Republicans' investigation into the Obama administration's handling of the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, has concealed witnesses, withheld documents, publicly aired unconfirmed allegations, and excluded Democrats from a hastily planned trip to Libya last weekend, according to his colleagues across the aisle.

"Although Chairman Issa has claimed publicly that ‘we are pursuing this on a bipartisan basis,' the Committee's investigation into the attack in Benghazi has been extremely partisan," reads a memo circulated today by the Democratic staff of the committee and obtained by The Cable. "The Chairman and his staff failed to consult with Democratic Members prior to issuing public letters with unverified allegations, concealed witnesses and refused to make one hearing witness available to Democratic staff, withheld documents obtained by the Committee during the investigation, and effectively excluded Democratic Committee Members from joining a poorly-planned congressional delegation to Libya."



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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Grotewold » Tue Oct 09, 2012 14:42:50

Issa seems relatively cool on the Bill Maher show but a real asshole pretty much all of the rest of the time

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Oct 09, 2012 14:45:19

Where exactly was Darrell Issa when we were invading foreign countries and torturing people?

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:06:58

Having represented Sesame Street, Jim Henson and PBS I can confirm they are three separate entities. In particular, no monies would flow from Jim Henson to Sesame Street.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:09:14

U.S. debt has shrunk to a six-year low relative to the size of the economy as homeowners, cities and companies cut borrowing, undermining rating companies’ downgrading of the nation’s credit rating.

Total indebtedness including that of federal and state governments and consumers has fallen to 3.29 times gross domestic product, the least since 2006, from a peak of 3.59 four years ago, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Private- sector borrowing is down by $4 trillion to $40.2 trillion.

Reduced borrowing means there is less competition for the U.S. Treasury Department as it sells debt to fund spending programs to help the nation recover from the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. Credit-rating firms are discounting the improvement even as debt, equity and currency markets suggest the U.S. is more creditworthy than before Standard & Poor’s stripped the nation of its AAA grade in 2011.



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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby cshort » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:14:31

Jim Henson and his family made millions off of characters he created and developed through Sesame Street. While the entities are non-profit, hard to argue that the creator didn't profit. Would seem to me PBS dropped the ball by not getting something from Henson (unless they were prohibited by law). Non-profits in other areas get royalties/fees from products where they provide the resources for people to invent or create, seems to me PBS could have done the same thing, seeing as they were the money making vehicle for Henson.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Soren » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:14:32

so is that a good thing
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby cshort » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:15:21

drsmooth wrote:
cshort wrote:non-profit


sesame workshop <> jim henson co <> PBS

businesspeople understand the distinction

no shit genius, that wasn't the point
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:18:35

Peter Hamby ‏@PeterHambyCNN
CNN/ORC POLL October 5-8 OHIO Likely Voters' Choice for President: Obama 51%, Romney 47% (MoE +/-3.5% pts)

+22 among women
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:19:51

Three Ohio polls out today, R+1, O+1, O+4

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:31:25

we're doing it

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:36:28

Soren wrote:so is that a good thing



if you take every tenth letter from that post it's as anagram for "big bird must die"

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Oct 09, 2012 16:42:58

CalvinBall wrote:we're doing it

It's true, Calvin. Nothing says Obama is getting reelected like a 5.5% lead in the Ohio polling average turning to 0.7% in a week.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Oct 09, 2012 17:17:40

North Dakota senate race tied in most recent poll. Apparently the Dem has a shot in Arizona too.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 17:23:31

Nate Silver ‏@fivethirtyeight
With further gains by Romney today, we now have Obama as a ~70/30 favorite, same as before conventions. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Tue Oct 09, 2012 17:33:09

cshort wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
cshort wrote:non-profit


sesame workshop <> jim henson co <> PBS

businesspeople understand the distinction

no shit genius, that wasn't the point


I know you've tried but I'm not sure you've really made a point yet
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Oct 09, 2012 18:08:30

Stephen Gutowski ‏@collegepolitico
So @fivethirtyeight's model gives Romney a 25% chance of winning the election? That's not a joke on his part?

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This is why I've never taken @fivethirtyeight's "I can see things you don't in these polls with my magically spectacles" act very seriously

this guy went to a small christian school in the center of pa. nate silver understood math better than he does now at the age of 8.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Tue Oct 09, 2012 20:00:33

CalvinBall wrote:Stephen Gutowski ‏@collegepolitico
So @fivethirtyeight's model gives Romney a 25% chance of winning the election? That's not a joke on his part?

Stephen Gutowski ‏@collegepolitico
This is why I've never taken @fivethirtyeight's "I can see things you don't in these polls with my magically spectacles" act very seriously

this guy went to a small christian school in the center of pa. nate silver understood math better than he does now at the age of 8.
When you're so practiced at ignoring facts it's easy to ignore that he got 49 states in 2008 and the pop vote within 1%.

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