I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

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Postby Doll Is Mine » Sat Aug 11, 2012 01:31:39

It's Paul Ryan.

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby MoBettle » Sat Aug 11, 2012 01:35:30

GOP definitely wins the handsome-off this cycle
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Aug 11, 2012 02:14:55

So excited

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sat Aug 11, 2012 02:26:12

#SaveMedicare

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sat Aug 11, 2012 02:34:46

Ezra Klein...

It’s worth recalling how Ryan became a semi-household name. It wasn’t a Republican strategy to put him forward. As Ryan Lizza recounts in his New Yorker profile of Ryan, it was a Democratic strategy to put Ryan forward. Ryan, he writes, “was caught between the demands of the Republican leaders, who wanted nothing to do with his Roadmap, and his own belief that the Party had to offer a sweeping alternative vision to Obama’s. Ryan soon had an unlikely ally, in Obama himself.” While Republicans were trying to keep Ryan quiet, the Obama administration was trying to make him famous. They saw his plans as the clearest distillation of the GOP’s governing philosophy — and they thought it would drive voters towards the Democrats. We’ll know in November whether that was a genius strategy or an epic miscalculation.

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Aug 11, 2012 03:15:34

Democrats had 257 House seats when they decided to elevate Ryan

They have 191 now

Correlation/causation and all that but I mean really, how's that working out for ya

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby drsmooth » Sat Aug 11, 2012 07:15:26

jerseyhoya wrote:Democrats had 257 House seats when they decided to elevate Ryan

They have 191 now

Correlation/causation and all that but I mean really, how's that working out for ya



your excitement will wane when you remember he's the veep candidate and you're still stuck with dancing horse guy up-top
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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Aug 11, 2012 08:39:39

You can't win em all doc

I don't have to try and get myself psyched for Romney/Portman or Romney/Pawlenty now

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Postby JUburton » Sat Aug 11, 2012 08:40:54

If anything, a Biden/Ryan debate should be pretty funny.

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby drsmooth » Sat Aug 11, 2012 08:46:01

jerseyhoya wrote:You can't win em all doc

I don't have to try and get myself psyched for Romney/Portman or Romney/Pawlenty now


share specifics of your enthusiasm for the Ryan/Romney ticket b/c I'm not seeing how that might come about
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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Aug 11, 2012 08:51:29

What

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby drsmooth » Sat Aug 11, 2012 08:59:37

jerseyhoya wrote:What


what makes you enthusiastic about Ryan/Romney (I am putting Ryan ahead of Romney on the ticket as an ironic gesture signifying who really wears the governance pants in the relationship)? I do not understand any person who is one of
a) young - under 50
b) not rich - under $10 mil assets and/or under $200k wage income
c) not waspy

having any enthusiasm for the two of them as leaders

clear enough for you now?
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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Aug 11, 2012 09:11:28

Which is funny because Paul Ryan is under 50, not waspy, and not worth $10 mil

I've been babbling on this board for a couple of years about how much I like Paul Ryan. Why wouldn't I be excited for him to be on the ticket?

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby Wolfgang622 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 09:22:47

I really didn't think Romney would have the stones to make this pick. Congrats to him and Mr. Ryan.

That said, I do think that the risk/reward analysis here shows that this makes a lot of sense for Romney. In that, despite what the pundits say, I can see very little risk here for Romney in terms of the election, as he is currently trailing in most polls anyway, but the potential rewards are obvious, starting with Wisconsin and the energizing of the practicing Catholic voter base.

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 09:23:41

I have mixed feelings. On one hand, Ryan should make it clear what the GOP agenda is in case anyone wasn't yet sure: Cut taxes and cut entitlement programs, even if it means we all drown. On the other hand, Ryan actually does a very good job explaining his points, making them seem reasonable even when they aren't, so that worries me a bit. Mitt obviously can't articulate his ideas in a way that doesn't make it seem like he's a rich guy showing up at your door for your money, but Ryan just might.

So to recap, I'm worried, but not as worried as I would have been with Christie backing up the Mittster
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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Aug 11, 2012 09:27:39

This is going to be a long three months.

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby kimbatiste » Sat Aug 11, 2012 09:28:39

Wow, major flub by Mitt.

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby MoBettle » Sat Aug 11, 2012 09:28:52

pretty sure mitt just called ryan the next president of the united states
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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Aug 11, 2012 09:28:58

Think Romney just said, "Join me in welcoming the next president of the united states Paul Ryan!"

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Re: I hope you RECALL that this is the POLITICS thread

Postby bury me » Sat Aug 11, 2012 09:29:22

first two notes from the brass section sounded like the evil dudes from star wars theme track

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