I would not be doing my duty as a partisan hack if I failed to note that with 95% of the vote counted in the WI Gov primaries that Walker almost has more votes than all of the Dem candidates for governor combined even though he didn't have a competitive primary - in an open primary state with nothing else to vote for on the GOP ticket. Base is fired up, ready to go.

And that Barack Obama is only winning 60% of the vote against some fella who is in jail in the West Virginia Dem primary. Might go best with td's link yesterday about the racists in Ohio, but an awful lot of that is how much the coal folks have turned against the national Democratic Party as well.

It's Wisconsin. They wear cheese on their heads.

So, I'm hearing all sorts of noise about the gay marriage vote in North Carolina. Tell me where I'm wrong here:

Ok, so we load up civil unions with all the basic rights of marriage, and we leave the word "marriage" alone. Let "marriage" be what people do in churches, and let civil unions be what you go to a justice of the peace for. I don't see how there could possibly be a problem if all the rights are the same, and we let religious people maintain the sanctity of the typical marriage.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

a lot of people don't like gay people. it doesn't really matter what you call it.

You are correct Gris, but Jive is more correct. Then there is the argument I have heard that a Civil Union is not Marriage, so it needs to be defeated so that Gay Marriage is recognized. Your damned if you do and damned if you don't.

jerseyhoya wrote:I would not be doing my duty as a partisan hack if I failed to note that with 95% of the vote counted in the WI Gov primaries that Walker almost has more votes than all of the Dem candidates for governor combined even though he didn't have a competitive primary - in an open primary state with nothing else to vote for on the GOP ticket. Base is fired up, ready to go.

i know recent polls have him ahead of barrett and this will be barrett's third attempt at the WI governership and all that, but

On January 17, 2012, United Wisconsin, the coalition that spearheaded the recall effort along with the Democratic Party, said that one million signatures were collected, which far exceeds the 540,208 needed, and amounts to 23 percent of the state’s eligible voters, 46 percent of the total votes cast in the 2010 gubernatorial election, and just shy of the 1.1 million votes earned by Walker.

Lugar's loss is troubling given the positions about his working for the good of the US as a statesman is soft and detestable. It is looking like the US has the opportunity to blow right past British style parliamentary style politics and move right to a third house ranking where nothing at all gets done and physical fights in chambers are acceptable.

jerseyhoya wrote:I would not be doing my duty as a partisan hack if I failed to note that with 95% of the vote counted in the WI Gov primaries that Walker almost has more votes than all of the Dem candidates for governor combined even though he didn't have a competitive primary - in an open primary state with nothing else to vote for on the GOP ticket. Base is fired up, ready to go.

And that Barack Obama is only winning 60% of the vote against some fella who is in jail in the West Virginia Dem primary. Might go best with td's link yesterday about the racists in Ohio, but an awful lot of that is how much the coal folks have turned against the national Democratic Party as well.

Almost, horseshoes, etc

"My own view, by the way, was that the auto companies needed to go through bankruptcy before government help, and frankly that's finally what the President did," Romney said during an interview with ABC News' Cleveland affiliate WEWS on Monday. "He took them through bankruptcy. That was the right course I argued for from the very beginning. It was the AW and the President that delayed the idea of bankruptcy."

"I pushed the idea of a managed bankruptcy, and finally when that was done and help was given, the companies got back on their feet, so I'll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry's come back," Romney told WEWS .

link

dude wrote a "let detroit go bankrupt" op-ed in 2008.

pacino wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:I would not be doing my duty as a partisan hack if I failed to note that with 95% of the vote counted in the WI Gov primaries that Walker almost has more votes than all of the Dem candidates for governor combined even though he didn't have a competitive primary - in an open primary state with nothing else to vote for on the GOP ticket. Base is fired up, ready to go.

And that Barack Obama is only winning 60% of the vote against some fella who is in jail in the West Virginia Dem primary. Might go best with td's link yesterday about the racists in Ohio, but an awful lot of that is how much the coal folks have turned against the national Democratic Party as well.

Almost, horseshoes, etc

walker ~ 626k votes, dem field ~ 670k votes

Walker wins!!!

pacino wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:I would not be doing my duty as a partisan hack if I failed to note that with 95% of the vote counted in the WI Gov primaries that Walker almost has more votes than all of the Dem candidates for governor combined even though he didn't have a competitive primary - in an open primary state with nothing else to vote for on the GOP ticket. Base is fired up, ready to go.

And that Barack Obama is only winning 60% of the vote against some fella who is in jail in the West Virginia Dem primary. Might go best with td's link yesterday about the racists in Ohio, but an awful lot of that is how much the coal folks have turned against the national Democratic Party as well.

Almost, horseshoes, etc

Pretty sure this falls under the horseshoes and hand grenades category.

pacino wrote:Walker wins!!!

...the GOP primary in Wisconsin recall. What else would anyone expect?

jerseyhoya wrote:I would not be doing my duty as a partisan hack if I failed to note that with 95% of the vote counted in the WI Gov primaries that Walker almost has more votes than all of the Dem candidates for governor combined even though he didn't have a competitive primary - in an open primary state with nothing else to vote for on the GOP ticket. Base is fired up, ready to go.

I'd guess we agree that the impact of the eleventy gazillion in out-of-state dough backing his campaign won't hold a candle to the utility of his "loyal base"'s support, but you and I know what haters will do

td11 wrote:

"My own view, by the way, was that the auto companies needed to go through bankruptcy before government help, and frankly that's finally what the President did," Romney said during an interview with ABC News' Cleveland affiliate WEWS on Monday. "He took them through bankruptcy. That was the right course I argued for from the very beginning. It was the AW and the President that delayed the idea of bankruptcy."

"I pushed the idea of a managed bankruptcy, and finally when that was done and help was given, the companies got back on their feet, so I'll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry's come back," Romney told WEWS .

link

dude wrote a "let detroit go bankrupt" op-ed in 2008.

Romney drones on about this as if anyone other than fellow vulture capitalists actually understand what the fuck he's talking about. That is, he keeps talking about "bankruptcy" as though huge masses of uncommitted voters are capable of imagining that that's a good thing. Are there actually NO politically savvy advisors anywhere near him?

Obama is about to do an interview with roberts about the nc fall out. Will bombs be dropped?

Ramon Gris wrote:So, I'm hearing all sorts of noise about the gay marriage vote in North Carolina. Tell me where I'm wrong here:

Ok, so we load up civil unions with all the basic rights of marriage, and we leave the word "marriage" alone. Let "marriage" be what people do in churches, and let civil unions be what you go to a justice of the peace for. I don't see how there could possibly be a problem if all the rights are the same, and we let religious people maintain the sanctity of the typical marriage.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Separate but equal eh? I thought we threw that out the window a while ago.

What if my religion wants to recognize gay marriage?

MoBettle wrote:Obama is about to do an interview with roberts about the nc fall out. Will bombs be dropped?

Thus ends one of the weirder political dances of recent times, when everyone and their mother knew he was lying about his position for years

Good for him, I guess

there are 50 PA senate spots. 13 incumbents do not have anyone from another party running against them for re-election in 2012. one of them is mine. although i think she's one of the best, i wish she had an opponent i could vote against.

Jersey, can you explain the following quote with respect to Scott Brown and the Tea Party

If Mourdock loses the general election, Republican moderates and their lobbyist friends on K Street will paint the Tea Party as extremists who can’t win elections. They will will try and define the Tea Party movement as the party of Christine O’Donnell, Sharon Angle, and Joe Miller. But if Mourdock wins, the Tea Party will be the center of the Republican Party, embodied by Sens. Marco Rubio, Ron Johnson, Rand Paul, Scott Brown.