Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby Swiggers » Mon Mar 26, 2012 23:28:58

Seriously, wake me when it's over.
jerseyhoya wrote:I think the reason you get yelled at is you appear to hate listening to sports talk radio, but regularly listen to sports talk radio, and then frequently post about how bad listening to sports talk radio is after you were once again listening to it.

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Mar 26, 2012 23:35:59

Caught on open mike, Obama tells Medvedev he needs ‘space’ on missile defense

“On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space,” Obama can be heard telling Medvedev, apparently referring to incoming Russian president — and outgoing prime minister — Vladi­mir Putin.

“Yeah, I understand,” Medvedev replies, according to an account relayed by an ABC News producer, who said she viewed a recording of the discussion made by a Russian camera crew. “I understand your message about space. Space for you . . .”

“This is my last election,” Obama interjects. “After my election, I have more flexibility.”

Medvedev, who last week demanded written proof that Russia is not the intended target of U.S. missile defense efforts, responded agreeably.

“I understand,” he told the U.S. president. “I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”


How about that

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Mar 27, 2012 01:29:07

U.S. Inches Toward Goal of Energy Independence

His administration initially canceled some oil and gas leases on federal land awarded during the Bush administration and required more environmental review. But in a world where crucial oil suppliers like Venezuela and Libya were unstable and high energy prices could be a drag on a weak economy, he soon acted to promote more drilling. Despite a drilling hiatus after the 2010 explosion of the Deepwater Horizon in the Gulf of Mexico, which killed 11 rig workers and spilled millions of barrels of crude oil into the ocean, he has proposed expansion of oil production both on land and offshore. He is now moving toward approving drilling off the coast of Alaska.

“Our dependence on foreign oil is down because of policies put in place by our administration, but also our predecessor’s administration,” Mr. Obama said during a campaign appearance in March, a few weeks after opening 38 million more acres in the gulf for oil and gas exploration. “And whoever succeeds me is going to have to keep it up.”

The trend of lower consumption, when combined with higher energy production, has profound implications, said Bill White, former deputy energy secretary in the Clinton administration and former mayor of Houston.

“Energy independence has always been a race between depletion and technologies to produce more and use energy more efficiently,” he said. “Depletion was winning for decades, and now technology is starting to overtake its lead.”

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 02:47:49

Go, science, go!!!

On a related note, I read about some Niagara Falls based company that is turning plastic very efficiently into fuel. It's been done in the past, but not at a high grade of fuel and it required better plastic. This new process uses plastic that isn't used in other recycling processes. I don't like the idea of making fossil fuels, but at least it won't go into landfills.
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 07:25:08

Monkeyboy wrote:Go, science, go!!!

On a related note, I read about some Niagara Falls based company that is turning plastic very efficiently into fuel. It's been done in the past, but not at a high grade of fuel and it required better plastic. This new process uses plastic that isn't used in other recycling processes. I don't like the idea of making fossil fuels, but at least it won't go into landfills.


You got a link plz?
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 07:55:40

td11 wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:Go, science, go!!!

On a related note, I read about some Niagara Falls based company that is turning plastic very efficiently into fuel. It's been done in the past, but not at a high grade of fuel and it required better plastic. This new process uses plastic that isn't used in other recycling processes. I don't like the idea of making fossil fuels, but at least it won't go into landfills.


You got a link plz?



It took me a bit to find it. I thought it was on the bbc website, but it was npr.

http://www.npr.org/2012/03/19/147506525 ... ds-a-niche
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 09:06:31

Monkeyboy wrote:
td11 wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:Go, science, go!!!

On a related note, I read about some Niagara Falls based company that is turning plastic very efficiently into fuel. It's been done in the past, but not at a high grade of fuel and it required better plastic. This new process uses plastic that isn't used in other recycling processes. I don't like the idea of making fossil fuels, but at least it won't go into landfills.


You got a link plz?



It took me a bit to find it. I thought it was on the bbc website, but it was npr.

http://www.npr.org/2012/03/19/147506525 ... ds-a-niche


appreciate it. i'm seriously considering sending them my resume
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 27, 2012 09:33:57

jerseyhoya wrote:Caught on open mike, Obama tells Medvedev he needs ‘space’ on missile defense

“On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space,” Obama can be heard telling Medvedev, apparently referring to incoming Russian president — and outgoing prime minister — Vladi­mir Putin.

“Yeah, I understand,” Medvedev replies, according to an account relayed by an ABC News producer, who said she viewed a recording of the discussion made by a Russian camera crew. “I understand your message about space. Space for you . . .”

“This is my last election,” Obama interjects. “After my election, I have more flexibility.”

Medvedev, who last week demanded written proof that Russia is not the intended target of U.S. missile defense efforts, responded agreeably.

“I understand,” he told the U.S. president. “I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”


How about that


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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby phdave » Tue Mar 27, 2012 09:57:59

td11 wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:
td11 wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:Go, science, go!!!

On a related note, I read about some Niagara Falls based company that is turning plastic very efficiently into fuel. It's been done in the past, but not at a high grade of fuel and it required better plastic. This new process uses plastic that isn't used in other recycling processes. I don't like the idea of making fossil fuels, but at least it won't go into landfills.


You got a link plz?



It took me a bit to find it. I thought it was on the bbc website, but it was npr.

http://www.npr.org/2012/03/19/147506525 ... ds-a-niche


appreciate it. i'm seriously considering sending them my resume


It's made of plastic?

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:03:57

Monkeyboy wrote:Go, science, go!!!

Don't let pacino see you with those exclamation points about fracking

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:20:58

phdave wrote:
td11 wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:
td11 wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:Go, science, go!!!

On a related note, I read about some Niagara Falls based company that is turning plastic very efficiently into fuel. It's been done in the past, but not at a high grade of fuel and it required better plastic. This new process uses plastic that isn't used in other recycling processes. I don't like the idea of making fossil fuels, but at least it won't go into landfills.


You got a link plz?



It took me a bit to find it. I thought it was on the bbc website, but it was npr.

http://www.npr.org/2012/03/19/147506525 ... ds-a-niche


appreciate it. i'm seriously considering sending them my resume


It's made of plastic?


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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:27:03

The whole concept of dependence on foreign oil misses the point. We don't own the oil in our country.


As for Russia, damn does medvedev sound like a bitch there.

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:36:04

pacino wrote:The whole concept of dependence on foreign oil misses the point. We don't own the oil in our country.

Forgive me, but I don't understand your point. Are you pointing out that we'll still have to import oil, or that because multinational companies own the owl we'll still be dependent on buying oil from an entity?

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:11:52

pacino wrote:The whole concept of dependence on foreign oil misses the point. We don't own the oil in our country.


I own stock in a domestic oil producer.
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:41:27

I think that the open mic thing seems a little blown up. Eth-a-sketchy even, although it was a dumb time to say that because everyone knows you reset for the presidential campaign. With the mic, I am pretty sure I heard Romney deflect by saying that the American people need to know the presidents agenda (getting a little more taste of foot for not wanting to share his major strategies before the general election context).

I have heard and reread the comments again and again. Obama is talking to a puppet who is now being thrown in the trash, so at best he is talking to a guy who can still pull the string attached to the can that gets him to someone who talks Putin's messages. In some way it might be better that it is in the press. I do not see a big issue with Obama trying to soften things by pushing that it should not be a conflict that could upset the political apple cart. It is a deal with me now type declaration or fall back down to dealing with new players and new agendas. That is strategic as much as anything.

The comment that I think is perplexing is about having flexibility after his election. There is zero context to what that means. As wide open as it is, I am sure it will get spun (ready for the declaration that he is a commie, not a socialist by the screaming mouths).

The whole secret agenda thing is just a scream. Are we getting a dictator who needs not report to or be beholden to congress and justice?
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Tue Mar 27, 2012 13:13:58

Werthless wrote:... because multinational companies own the owl ...

I nominate this typo for a Wheelie.

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Tue Mar 27, 2012 13:32:32

Phan In Phlorida wrote:
Werthless wrote:... because multinational companies own the owl ...

I nominate this typo for a Wheelie.

i and w are so close on the keyboard that it's an understandable mwstake.

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby Youseff » Tue Mar 27, 2012 13:42:14

what do you guys think of Waste to Energy as an energy source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste-to-energy
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 27, 2012 13:59:47

Youseff wrote:what do you guys think of Waste to Energy as an energy source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste-to-energy


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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Tue Mar 27, 2012 15:26:06

Werthless wrote:
pacino wrote:The whole concept of dependence on foreign oil misses the point. We don't own the oil in our country.

Forgive me, but I don't understand your point. Are you pointing out that we'll still have to import oil, or that because multinational companies own the owl we'll still be dependent on buying oil from an entity?

The latter.

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