td11 wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

td11 wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:Go, science, go!!!

On a related note, I read about some Niagara Falls based company that is turning plastic very efficiently into fuel. It's been done in the past, but not at a high grade of fuel and it required better plastic. This new process uses plastic that isn't used in other recycling processes. I don't like the idea of making fossil fuels, but at least it won't go into landfills.

You got a link plz?

It took me a bit to find it. I thought it was on the bbc website, but it was npr.

http://www.npr.org/2012/03/19/147506525 ... ds-a-niche

appreciate it. i'm seriously considering sending them my resume

do it.

Youseff wrote:what do you guys think of Waste to Energy as an energy source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste-to-energy

I guess it depends on what is being burned/processed and what the emissions standards are.

didn't plastic start its life as a fossil fuel???

Bucky wrote:didn't plastic start its life as a fossil fuel???

Yeh, basically they are chains of monomers put together in different ways to make various kinds of plastics. The raw material is usually fossil fuels. You'd think it would be easy enough to reverse the process to get back to fossil fuels, but I guess it's not. Maybe it has something to do with the way the hydrocarbons are cracked apart to get the monomers needed to make the plastics in the first place. I really don't now much about the actual chemistry...maybe td can fill us in.

That's not even clever

jerseyhoya wrote:That's not even clever

agreed. it's woody, but in a bad woody way.

In another category of shallow thinking, apparently academia has been struggling with the concept of independent voters. From various quarters of the ivory tower the research concludes that independents tend to have certain biases making them partisan. That is the weakest research I have seen in a longtime, unless they let the undergrads do the work and summarized from a 101 level course.

Certainly people are biased. If people take an honest look at themselves in the independent category I think that they tend largely to libertarian views, but posses enough logic to want to apply those principles to governance rather then cast a vote for libertarian candidates, who tend to be fringe players with untenable simple, singular agendas. To that end they, and myself included, tend to vote one way more then others. I would say that it is driven by fiscal conservancy balanced with the underpinnings of the US as a social welfare state since FDR. Ballot decisions are made based on who will be an effective leader with a reasonable fiscal approach while maintaining protections for the poor stopping short of the Nordic model (think of this as more Robinhood in nature).

I also think that in practice this leads to more Republican votes at the local and state level with leaning toward Democrat in national elections. My thoughts on these leanings is that the money spent that directly and visibly impacts the citizens where topics like defense, tax collection, intelligence, judiciary, etc. are more subject to wanting a framework for the state to implement. Not unilateral voting at any level, but I think it is pronounced. I also think that things have splintered further as the rhetoric has increased framing agendas that might not sit well with ones personal ideology.

Perhaps the reality is that people have core beliefs and if you have a box with specif shapes, like a toddler's shape sorter, you will be able to make a definition. If you only have two boxes to fit into, then the research is not research but a polling exercise with a goal of defining which box someone belongs in.

so are you saying that fire wood thing is made up

Saw this on Stewart last nite. Don't think it was the intended effect, but the nozzle to the head gas pump suicide thing made me lollerz.

Oh my goodness, Mitt, that sure IS humorous, laying off a bunch of people and then rying to trick them into forgetting that you did it. That's hilarious, a real knee-slapper. I bet you get a lot of guffaws telling that one to all your rich buddies at Bain. Maybe it even helped you sleep at night while you were laying off people.

You know, maybe we really should believe Mitt when he says he has a sense of humor. I mean, it doesn't get much funnier than that.

He's starting to make McCain look like a good candidate.

At the outset of the call, Romney said he has some connections to Wisconsin.

“One of most humorous I think relates to my father. You may remember my father, George Romney, was president of an automobile company called American Motors … They had a factory in Michigan, and they had a factory in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and another one in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,” said Romney. “And as the president of the company he decided to close the factory in Michigan and move all the production to Wisconsin. Now later he decided to run for governor of Michigan and so you can imagine that having closed the factory and moved all the production to Wisconsin was a very sensitive issue to him, for his campaign.”

Romney said he recalled a parade in which the school band marching with his father’s campaign only knew the Wisconsin fight song, not the Michigan song.

“So every time they would start playing ‘On Wisconsin, on Wisconsin,’ my dad’s political people would jump up and down and try to get them to stop, because they didn’t want people in Michigan to be reminded that my dad had moved production to Wisconsin,” said Romney, laughing.

holy fuck

Mitt's a guy who gets fire wood

for real

American Motors, responsible for inflicting the public with the Pacer and Gremlin...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.1007228

Kind of ironic. Doesn't really implicate Rick of anything though. But still funny.

Monkeyboy wrote:Oh my goodness, Mitt, that sure IS humorous, laying off a bunch of people and then rying to trick them into forgetting that you did it. That's hilarious, a real knee-slapper. I bet you get a lot of guffaws telling that one to all your rich buddies at Bain. Maybe it even helped you sleep at night while you were laying off people.

You know, maybe we really should believe Mitt when he says he has a sense of humor. I mean, it doesn't get much funnier than that.

He's starting to make McCain look like a good candidate.

At the outset of the call, Romney said he has some connections to Wisconsin.

“One of most humorous I think relates to my father. You may remember my father, George Romney, was president of an automobile company called American Motors … They had a factory in Michigan, and they had a factory in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and another one in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,” said Romney. “And as the president of the company he decided to close the factory in Michigan and move all the production to Wisconsin. Now later he decided to run for governor of Michigan and so you can imagine that having closed the factory and moved all the production to Wisconsin was a very sensitive issue to him, for his campaign.”

Romney said he recalled a parade in which the school band marching with his father’s campaign only knew the Wisconsin fight song, not the Michigan song.

“So every time they would start playing ‘On Wisconsin, on Wisconsin,’ my dad’s political people would jump up and down and try to get them to stop, because they didn’t want people in Michigan to be reminded that my dad had moved production to Wisconsin,” said Romney, laughing.

Don't worry, his campaign will have something out soon tell us how that really was not what he meant to say. It really is a good thing for Romney that he was better at destroying companies than he is at running for President or he would be broke.

The smartest thing Romney did was to stop accepting invitations to Republican debates. The more those people saw of him, the less they like him, and the evident effort of his pandering makes him far less effective at it in a primary than his less intelligent and less palatable rivals. By falling back on his resource advantages, he will successfully manage to run out the clock on the nomination contest.

And maybe I'm wrong, but I think he'll be better debating Obama and essentially competing for "the middle" than he was debating NOOT and Frothy for the votes of those at the far right fringe. The guy is a horrible panderer--exactly because he tries so hard at it--and a lousy retail pol in general, but he's capable of thinking on his feet when the subject is impersonal, and he's probably as strong as or stronger on details than the president. Strange though it is to say, unless the economy is blazing by late summer, Obama will have to beat him on character.

Romney thought it was amusing that his dad had to run a governor's race 50 years ago in a state where he closed a plant and the marching band played the song of the state the production moved to instead.

The President's budget defeated 414-0 in the House.

dude can spin a yarn

my buddy just posted a pic of himself with christy at the bruce show