slugsrbad wrote:More of a random thought... but I hate when anyone laments that the country has fallen since the good ol' days of our forefathers. I know I'm bitching about something I am benefiting from, but those days were filled with slavery and genocide. It's inconceivable how willfully ignorant so many people are on the other side of our history and the costs of Manifest Destiny.

*This message brought to you thanks in part to reading a Rick Santorum speech circa 2008*

it's why i never understood flying the confederate flag...heritage not hate? remembering what good ol' days? when we put people in slavery?

newt is "cheerful"

which is romulan for "bent on world domination"

How we paying for all those new warriors and gear there, Mitt?

TenuredVulture wrote:This is the first debate I've watched. Have they all been this incoherent?

incoherent? they're whipsmart this evening, tv

taxes on the poor, dajafi. duh. need some skin in the game.

It physically hurts me that Newtron is a "historian"

hey, i'm a historian!!!! i havent seen him at hte meetings, though?

dajafi wrote:It physically hurts me that Newtron is a "historian"

happily it turns out that historian is romulan for "man with incredibly tiny dick"

pacino wrote:taxes on the poor, dajafi. duh. need some skin in the game.

But they still have to fight the wars, right?

drsmooth wrote:

dajafi wrote:It physically hurts me that Newtron is a "historian"

happily it turns out that historian is romulan for "man with incredibly tiny dick"

ouch^

pacino wrote:the AZ economy has tanked since they passed their laws.

Is this true or just something you thought sounded neat?

jerseyhoya wrote:

pacino wrote:the AZ economy has tanked since they passed their laws.

Is this true or just something you thought sounded neat?

Yes.

slugsrbad wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

pacino wrote:the AZ economy has tanked since they passed their laws.

Is this true or just something you thought sounded neat?

Yes.

drunk reactionary posting. looks like it's been stagnant, and lots of construction jobs have been abandoned. so, something i thought sounded neat, but it's not like it's booming.

My understanding is that Obama's sanctions on Iran have been pretty crippling; if they weren't, I doubt Iran would be trying to stand down the Europeans or threatening their own pre-emption. So Obama's doing what Mittens suggests, yet he's still the black Chamberlain.

And now Frothy's speaking kindly of Mubarak, and totally ignoring the fact that the Iranian democracy movement didn't want American help in '09.

Wilt was pretty damn good, dajafi...

pacino wrote:Wilt was pretty damn good, dajafi...

Ironic thing is that I also thought of writing "Carter." but the poor guy just died.

jerseyhoya wrote:

pacino wrote:the AZ economy has tanked since they passed their laws.

Is this true or just something you thought sounded neat?

Arizona is the pit of suck

their economic fortunes are tied to real estate lunacy, every bit as much as las vegas

it almost doesn't matter what freekay politician sez or does anything there, whether they shave their head or are gay or suck mexicans or work for Mitt

the place is an infernal shithole

(sorry azrider)

pacino wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

pacino wrote:the AZ economy has tanked since they passed their laws.

Is this true or just something you thought sounded neat?

Yes.

drunk reactionary posting. looks like it's been stagnant, and lots of construction jobs have been abandoned. so, something i thought sounded neat, but it's not like it's booming.

But have the construction jobs been abandoned because of SB1070 or because the real estate market cratered, which one might assume has had outsized effects in rapidly growing states like Arizona. Looking at Arizona's unemployment rate it went from being better than the national one by a bit to worse than it over the course of the recession, lending more credence to the state's economic difficulties not having a whole lot to do with a law passed in the middle of 2010.

Cheap, unskilled labor should make a state relatively better off, especially in boom times, but in a tight employment market (and an economic reality where the industry many of the cheap laborers worked in is sucking wind for non-labor supply reasons) I'm not sure you'd expect to see all that big of an effect from some of them leaving. Is there something out there where someone has tried to measure the effects of the law?

i dont jh, im gonna play wow. it's a good question. wish you were running for something and not some of these dopes. later.

pacino wrote:i dont jh, im gonna play wow. it's a good question. wish you were running for something and not some of these dopes. later.

If only I were not in the library I would jump on and try and camp you. Oh well.