Election Day Thread

by **Bakestar** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:34:38

Anyone see how close Nate Silver was in his predictions? Holy crap.

Only missed one state, Indiana (assuming NC goes blue).

Off by .1% in predicting the popular vote.

Looks like "the Model" works.

by **Bucky** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:35:56

He sits on Diebold's board does he not

by **Bakestar** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:38:08

Bucky wrote:He sits on Diebold's board does he not

Forgot the "PtK" tag...

by **Mountainphan** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:41:12

Breaking News from the Onion...

by **Woody** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:42:14

Wednesday was the only the fourth time that the NY Times used 96 pt. type for the headline on the front page of the paper. In chronological order:

MEN WALK ON MOON
NIXON RESIGNS
U.S. ATTACKED
OBAMA

by **Barry Jive** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:53:58

Woody wrote:
Wednesday was the only the fourth time that the NY Times used 96 pt. type for the headline on the front page of the paper. In chronological order:

MEN WALK ON MOON
NIXON RESIGNS
U.S. ATTACKED
OBAMA

That reminds me: My friend showed me this last night. This is the front page of yesterday's Rockdale Citizen, a paper in Georgia.

by **Bakestar** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:56:25

THERE'S A SALE AT PENNEY'S!!

by **traderdave** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:19:48

Bakestar wrote:Anyone see how close Nate Silver was in his predictions? Holy crap.

Only missed one state, Indiana (assuming NC goes blue).

Off by .1% in predicting the popular vote.

Looks like "the Model" works.

North Carolina has indeed gone blue.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081106/ap_ ... AqeXnLLJ94

by **Bakestar** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:32:26

Howard Dean has to feel at least somewhat vindicated.

by **TenuredVulture** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:42:13

Bakestar wrote:Howard Dean has to feel at least somewhat vindicated.

I think more than vindicated. I've been saying it for awhile--Dean is the architect of the Democratic revival.

by **BuddyGroom** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:44:19

jerseyhoya wrote:Bahaha, my precinct in DC:

Barack Obama - 1,417
John McCain - 72
Ralph Nader - 7
Cynthia McKinney - 7
Write In - 7

McCain got 4.77%.

FWIW, even I was rooting for Carol Schwartz to get re-elected. Big loss for the district, I think.

by **BuddyGroom** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:45:48

TenuredVulture wrote:
Bakestar wrote:Howard Dean has to feel at least somewhat vindicated.

I think more than vindicated. I've been saying it for awhile--Dean is the architect of the Democratic revival.

The 50-state strategy had a hand in this win and the closer than usual losses in some deep-red states. This should benefit the Democrats for a long time to come.

And considering some of the real uncalled stuff said about Dean over the years, I am very glad to see him vindicated. Not surprisingly, he is deflecting much of the credit.

by **dajafi** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:45:59

TenuredVulture wrote:
Bakestar wrote:Howard Dean has to feel at least somewhat vindicated.

I think more than vindicated. I've been saying it for awhile--Dean is the architect of the Democratic revival.

Dean was rumored to be in the mix for HHS secretary. I think he can declare Mission Accomplished at the DNC, so the question is whether he'd like to join the administration or wait for Leahy to retire; I guess those aren't mutually exclusive, actually.

by **Werthless** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:46:45

Monkeyboy wrote:One other short thing. There's a big difference between someone saying they need to stop Bush on a baseball message board and a spokesman from the RNC saying it. Bush also had a record to oppose in 2004, which Obama doesn't have yet as the POTUS. I'm sorry you can't see the difference.

And what do my religious beliefs have to do with anything? Are you working for Liddy Dole and the GOP now? And when did I say I didn't believe in God?

DNC spokesman being a uniter: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01160.html

by **Bakestar** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:47:18

TenuredVulture wrote:
Bakestar wrote:Howard Dean has to feel at least somewhat vindicated.

I think more than vindicated. I've been saying it for awhile--Dean is the architect of the Democratic revival.

I was understating for emphasis, but yeah, I'm pretty close to you on this one. I was never a Deaniac in 2004; He had the right idea but was the wrong guy to execute it. Unprecedented pickups in the old Confederacy and Mountain West and strong footholds in the upper prairie/mountain states. Lots more routes to victory than the old "two of OH/FL/PA" strategy. Not to mention the Senate/House gains to be had.

by **traderdave** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:47:50

TenuredVulture wrote:
Bakestar wrote:Howard Dean has to feel at least somewhat vindicated.

I think more than vindicated. I've been saying it for awhile--Dean is the architect of the Democratic revival.

I really thought Dean got a bad rap back in '04. I thought that whole episode was extremely overblown and I felt bad for him. I glad that he is getting to say "I told you so".

by **jamiethekiller** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:53:20

love dean. wish he would of won the primaries.[/list]

by **Bakestar** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:55:05

dajafi wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
Bakestar wrote:Howard Dean has to feel at least somewhat vindicated.

I think more than vindicated. I've been saying it for awhile--Dean is the architect of the Democratic revival.

Dean was rumored to be in the mix for HHS secretary. I think he can declare Mission Accomplished at the DNC, so the question is whether he'd like to join the administration or wait for Leahy to retire; I guess those aren't mutually exclusive, actually.

Dean for Surgeon General, give him the C. Everett Koop "Dr. God" get-up. That'd rule.

by **TenuredVulture** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:55:06

traderdave wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
Bakestar wrote:Howard Dean has to feel at least somewhat vindicated.

I think more than vindicated. I've been saying it for awhile--Dean is the architect of the Democratic revival.

I really thought Dean got a bad rap back in '04. I thought that whole episode was extremely overblown and I felt bad for him. I glad that he is getting to say "I told you so".

I actually think Dean deserves some blame for '04. But here's the thing--he learned from the mistakes of 04 and corrected them. The overall strategy was a good one--the right one at the right time when no one else noticed it. The 04 problem was tactical.

There was an interesting blog piece in the Nation awhile back--I think I posted it here--that argued that the left cannot ignore big chunks of the nation and the electorate. I think that's correct.

by **Bakestar** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 13:57:39

TenuredVulture wrote:
traderdave wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
Bakestar wrote:Howard Dean has to feel at least somewhat vindicated.

I think more than vindicated. I've been saying it for awhile--Dean is the architect of the Democratic revival.

I really thought Dean got a bad rap back in '04. I thought that whole episode was extremely overblown and I felt bad for him. I glad that he is getting to say "I told you so".

I actually think Dean deserves some blame for '04. But here's the thing--he learned from the mistakes of 04 and corrected them. The overall strategy was a good one--the right one at the right time when no one else noticed it. The 04 problem was tactical.

There was an interesting blog piece in the Nation awhile back--I think I posted it here--that argued that the left cannot ignore big chunks of the nation and the electorate. I think that's correct.

Playing to certain parts of the country at the expense of others merely plays into the "elitist" label. His "we want the guy with the Confederate flag on his truck as a voter" was rhetorically dumb, but conceptually wise.

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