Election Day Thread

Postby Wizlah » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:06:30

jerseyhoya wrote:Unemployment up to 6.5%. Yikes.

Say it with me now, the Bush-Pelosi-Obama recession. I'm just practicing for 2010.


6.5%? Piss. I remember when it was 20! 20 I tells ya!
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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:30:47

Ryan isn't going to run for leader. Oh well.

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Postby Camp Holdout » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:57:54

obama is gonna win omaha....

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:16:52

If Franken and Mary Jo Kilroy end up nosing out wins, all of the good feelings I have convinced myself to have since election day will be hard to keep up. I really despise Kilroy.

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Postby dajafi » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:21:39

jerseyhoya wrote:Unemployment up to 6.5%. Yikes.

Say it with me now, the Bush-Pelosi-Obama recession. I'm just practicing for 2010.


Someone always has to walk behind the elephants, cleaning up.

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Postby gr » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:46:12

dajafi wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Unemployment up to 6.5%. Yikes.

Say it with me now, the Bush-Pelosi-Obama recession. I'm just practicing for 2010.


Someone always has to walk behind the elephants, cleaning up.


And you'd have to be an "ass" to get that job. 8-)

See? It works on so many levels!!!!!
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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Nov 07, 2008 14:06:51

Wizlah wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Unemployment up to 6.5%. Yikes.

Say it with me now, the Bush-Pelosi-Obama recession. I'm just practicing for 2010.


6.5%? Piss. I remember when it was 20! 20 I tells ya!


That's your wack euro-socialism for you! :)

In '75 unemployment was in the 8's, in '82 it was in the 10's!

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Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Nov 07, 2008 14:19:53

VoxOrion wrote:
Wizlah wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Unemployment up to 6.5%. Yikes.

Say it with me now, the Bush-Pelosi-Obama recession. I'm just practicing for 2010.


6.5%? Piss. I remember when it was 20! 20 I tells ya!


That's your wack euro-socialism for you! :)

In '75 unemployment was in the 8's, in '82 it was in the 10's!

Fun wonky list



But haven't they changed the way unemployment is calculated since then? I seem to remember a discussion about it.
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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Nov 07, 2008 14:54:18

This list may or may not be adjusted, it only goes back to '51 if I remember correctly.
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Postby dajafi » Fri Nov 07, 2008 15:38:43

Interesting article about Franken, who's been an object of disdain around here from both our left- (including myself) and right-leaning obsessives:

Franken's critics are aware of his political satire, but that, too, has become another count in the indictment—Al Franken, trash talker. "He lampooned Rush Limbaugh as a 'big fat idiot,' and he dismissed Ann Coulter as a 'nutcase,' " clucked U.S. News earlier this year. Critics who take note of Franken's political books treat them as the left's answer to Coulter or Bill O'Reilly. But this misses the satirical point. To get the joke of Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot, you need only to look at the cover, which features Franken posing in a tweed jacket in front of a wall of musty bound volumes, clutching a pipe, looking comically pompous. Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right has the joke in the title itself. Coulter writes books with titles like Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right, whose charge is meant to be taken at face value. Franken's title mocks the accusation itself with over-the-top redundancy and subverts its own claim to truth by appropriating the corrupted slogan "Fair and Balanced."

Franken does resort to invective on occasion, but this hardly defines his satirical style. (You could just as easily cherry-pick Jon Stewart's most obscene sentences—he recently said "Fuck you" to Sarah Palin—to paint him as a foul-mouthed ranter.) His books are laced with wonky disquisitions on economic policy that are themselves laced with jokes. He evinces vastly more knowledge about domestic policy than most members of Congress or national political reporters I've met.

To be sure, Franken skewers his targets, a habit which has contributed to his reputation as a raging left-winger. The Wall Street Journal has reported that Franken's politics "neatly mirror" those of the "liberal base." There's a misperception at work here that conflates blunt opposition to the Republican right with left-wing beliefs. As a confessed Bush hater who's not enamored with the left, I'm a fellow victim of this confusion. Franken is actually a moderate who initially favored the Iraq war and has praised the centrist Democratic Leadership Council.

Indeed, what Franken reveals of himself in Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot confounds a lot of blue-state-elitist stereotypes. Franken recounts having said a prayer for George H.W. Bush upon his election, defending Bob Dole's honor to a European journalist, and making multiple overseas trips to entertain American troops. The Franken persona is best summed up by the instance when, upon hearing National Review Editor Rich Lowry claim that liberals had sissified politics, Franken challenged Lowry to a fistfight. When Lowry refused, they met for an amiable lunch. If, say, Jim Webb did this sort of thing, it would be seen as rough-hewn, populist authenticity.


I still think he's a lousy politician, but I could see him being a pretty good Senator.

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Postby Werthless » Fri Nov 07, 2008 15:52:00

Thanks for posting that dajafi. I don't know much about him beyond his (apparently inaccurate) reputation as a mirror image of right-wing nutcases.

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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Nov 07, 2008 15:56:00

That, and he just isn't funny. I remember when he would do weekend update bits for Dennis Miller and the comedy train would just veer right off the tracks and crash mercilessly into a lava flow of unfunnyness.
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Postby gr » Fri Nov 07, 2008 16:09:20

i'm glad that somewhere, someone, finally equated jon stewart with that haughty sense of left-leaning "comedy" mellowdrama. i've been sick of him for awhile. colbert really has showed him how to be satirical and funny without succumbing to outright anger.

ever since stewart went on crossfire and called tucker carlson a d*ck but ignoring begala, then hiding behind the "i'm just a comedian" defense, i've thought he's turned into a pretty lame partisan. we've already got a bill mahr, we don't need another one.
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Postby Woody » Fri Nov 07, 2008 16:09:58

Obama just gave a pretty funny answer at his press conference about what dog he's going to buy for the girls... he played it totally deadpan as though it was a most pressing issue of national importance. Good stuff

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Postby Bakestar » Fri Nov 07, 2008 16:11:09

Woody wrote:Obama just gave a pretty funny answer at his press conference about what dog he's going to buy for the girls... he played it totally deadpan as though it was a most pressing issue of national importance. Good stuff


Sooo... what kind of dog is he getting?!!?
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Postby dajafi » Fri Nov 07, 2008 16:11:56

VoxOrion wrote:That, and he just isn't funny. I remember when he would do weekend update bits for Dennis Miller and the comedy train would just veer right off the tracks and crash mercilessly into a lava flow of unfunnyness.


The only thing I remember liking was the one-man uplink bit he'd do from New Hampshire in (I think) 1988, which always ended by him getting struck by lightning.

Though Franken might have seemed less funny because Dennis, back then, was a fucking riot. Seriously, I loved him so much in those days that I still have some warm feelings even after the comprehensive douchening process he underwent in this decade. I even liked him--I think I was the only one--on Monday Night Football.
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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Nov 07, 2008 16:12:46

Miller was awesome in The Net.

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Postby Woody » Fri Nov 07, 2008 16:14:11

Bakestar wrote:
Woody wrote:Obama just gave a pretty funny answer at his press conference about what dog he's going to buy for the girls... he played it totally deadpan as though it was a most pressing issue of national importance. Good stuff


Sooo... what kind of dog is he getting?!!?


He didn't say, but he said there were many criteria including: It had to be hypo-allergenic, and it had to be from a pound or SPCA type situation. However, he said the challenge before them was difficult because most of the dogs in those types of places are mutts, like him.

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Postby The Dude » Fri Nov 07, 2008 16:15:59

what kind of dog hunts lame duck lol
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Postby Woody » Fri Nov 07, 2008 16:16:49

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