“Whether it’s George W. Bush or Barack Obama, this baton works the same way.”
--A D.C. policeman last night trying to corral the unruly and excited Obama revelers in the streets last night.

Gordon Smith lost in Oregon, so if Chambliss, Coleman and Stevens all win, our best case scenario is 55-43-2.

jerseyhoya wrote:Gordon Smith lost in Oregon, so if Chambliss, Coleman and Stevens all win, our best case scenario is 55-43-2.

But isn't one of the 2 like a commie or something?

TenuredVulture wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Gordon Smith lost in Oregon, so if Chambliss, Coleman and Stevens all win, our best case scenario is 55-43-2.

But isn't one of the 2 like a commie or something?

Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman. Both caucused with the Dems this time. Who knows what the deal will be with Lieberman this term.

jerseyhoya wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Gordon Smith lost in Oregon, so if Chambliss, Coleman and Stevens all win, our best case scenario is 55-43-2.

But isn't one of the 2 like a commie or something?

Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman. Both caucused with the Dems this time. Who knows what the deal will be with Lieberman this term.

Yeah. I know. Bernie pretty much counts as D.

Somewhere, laexile is curled up in a ball and crying his eyes out.


Gordon Smith lost?! He was up last I checked. Crazy Oregon and their mail ballots.

jerseyhoya wrote:

Houshphandzadeh wrote:Don't lots of people who work for Republicans live there?

I think my neighborhood is probably 50% black, 20% hispanic, 30% white.

A lot of Republicans who live in the city still vote at home (which is legal I think if you work for your member of Congress). But the bigger factor I think is that most professional Republicans who work in the city live in Virginia.

There's a reason DC has such a good metro system.

pacino wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

Houshphandzadeh wrote:Don't lots of people who work for Republicans live there?

I think my neighborhood is probably 50% black, 20% hispanic, 30% white.

A lot of Republicans who live in the city still vote at home (which is legal I think if you work for your member of Congress). But the bigger factor I think is that most professional Republicans who work in the city live in Virginia.

There's a reason DC has such a good metro system.

Good? It may be clean and efficient, but it's got no soul.

where I currently live:
Obama - 509
McCain - 462
Nader - 6
Barr - 3
write in - 4

used to live:
Obama - 796
McCain - 70
Nader - 4
Barr - 2
write in - 2

kruker wrote:

jeff2sf wrote:And Southpark is summing this up better than I could.

Amazing episode.

Yes indeed. I usually don't like it when they do political stuff, as the "screw all of you"/moralizing is just lame. But this was both very funny and pretty perceptive. Even my wife, who pretty much loathes South Park at this point, thought it was terrific.

(Though I do wonder why and just when they decided to turn Randy into Homer Simpson.)

Won't Stevens be immediately kicked out of the Senate since he is a criminal?

jeff2sf wrote:3 Things Mr. Monkey:

1. I LOVE Obama. Love him. So let's not go accusing me of stuff I'm not. I hope he'll reach out, but I don't even know what that means anymore. What I DO know is that Nancy Pelosi et al were not talking about how much they were thrilled to have GWB running the show in 2004. Messageboard dorks, people on the street, and people in the establishment were openly talking about how to get in the way (and god knows I supported that). I'm just saying the righteous indignation is too much.

2. I don't do baseball posts much anymore. That started out based on a business decision I had to make, and has sort of evolved to being the board conscience.

3. The for the love of god thing was just an expression, and then I realized you're an atheist/agnostic so I just threw that in

I think there's lots of room between "not being thrilled" and what you were suggesting or what the GOP did today. But again, in 2004, we had 4 years of Bush to look back on. A better comparison would be 2000 because Bush didn't yet have a record of being an affront to the Constitution. I recall nothing like what you're suggesting back in 2000. The thing is, today the guy could have said something like, " we look forward to working with Obama, but want to make sure the center/right has their views represented in the new administration," and I would have had no problem with it. The fact that he said was going to work "against" Obama sounds, well, let's just say we all know what the GOP would say if the shoe was on the other foot. The words he chose were no accident and they signal to the base what their intentions are.

I don't much care about your business decisions anymore then you care that I can get fired over a bad shopper score, even if I received over 100% on my last 5 scores. It's not my concern. What is my concern is that you deride those that post in political threads, but you do little else yourself. It seems hypocritical.... scratch that, it IS hypocritical. And it certainly disqualifies you from being anything like the board's conscience. I can't even imagine being so arrogant that I would call myself the conscience of anything other than myself (and even that's hard at times, being human and all).

That's fine about the religion thing. I wasn't actually offended. For the record, I do believe in a higher power, I'm just not smart enough to know if that's a God or just some universal force or whatever.

Kenya so pleased, they declared a national holiday:

Across Kenya, people are celebrating the fact that a son of this nation has become president. Many stayed up all night. There is such a feeling of connection with him that a national holiday has been declared. Kenyans know he is first and foremost American, but at the same time someone we can call a relative.

Blunt to step down as whip. Cantor will win that race. No idea if anyone will challenge Boehner for leader.

Can Obama replace Pelosi with another majority leader? How does that work?

Houshphandzadeh wrote:Can Obama replace Pelosi with another majority leader? How does that work?

not the way you imagine it.

think of the congressional majorities (or minorities for that matter) like a club where the club members make up the rules & select their own leadership. Presumably a prez/impending prez could & would try to influence a choice but it's the club member's choice.

Houshphandzadeh wrote:Can Obama replace Pelosi with another majority leader? How does that work?

The White House was widely seen as having a key role in deposing Trent Lott as leader after his remarks about Strom Thurmond back in 2002, but generally they don't get too involved in these things.

There's no way Pelosi is going anywhere, having successfully led House Dems to consecutive double digit seat pick ups.

Emanuel leaving to be Chief of Staff opens up one leadership position. I think it will be interesting to see if liberals mount a challenge to Steny Hoyer for Majority Leader. On the one hand I'd like to see him stay there because I think he does a good job and he's a moderating influence on the legislation. On the other hand, I think the House Dems losing Emanuel and Hoyer from their leadership can only mean good things for someone who doesn't want anything to get done.

Robert Gibbs will be the Press Secretary for Obama..I remember seeing his famous blow-up with Sean Hannity after one of the debates over the Ayres issue.

The one thing I can't believe is that he is only 37 years old..I thought he was so much older!

jerseyhoya wrote:

Houshphandzadeh wrote:Can Obama replace Pelosi with another majority leader? How does that work?

On the other hand, I think the House Dems losing Emanuel and Hoyer from their leadership can only mean good things for someone who doesn't want anything to get done.

And this, THIS is what sums up what makes you so awful.

I'm supposed to want them to pass all sorts of crap I disagree with? How the fuck does that make any sense?