I turn my head and then Eickhoff? Phillies random thoughts

by **Squire** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 17:12:31

I don't know. I like my OFs with high OBP or high SLG. The defensive metrics just seem so unreliable to me. I would have preferred to trade something for Trumbo and put him in LF. Still hoping we take Goeddel, Hernandez or Blash in the Rule 5

by **Jimbo** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 17:54:23

Stripes wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:
Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick
#Astros and #Phillies recently discussed Ken Giles. #Phillies brought up Lance McCullers and Vincent Velasquez, sources say. Phillies are getting a lot of hits on Giles and trade talks are likely to intensify in Nashville.

Flip McCullers for Ozuna?

I'd rather keep McCullers in the event that the Astros would be dumb enough to do that.

by **Monkeyboy** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 18:14:21

I certainly hope bourjos is a good fielder because he sure as heck doesn't do anything else well.

I would have preferred to hold onto Ogando.

by **Shore** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 18:40:22

Monkeyboy wrote:I certainly hope bourjos is a good fielder because he sure as heck doesn't do anything else well.

I would have preferred to hold onto Ogando.

by **smitty** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 18:41:10

He has a great reputation amongst both scouty types and computer numbers guys. I liked him a few years ago but he hasn't hit at all. I like the idea of having a great defense so I like this move.

by **Monkeyboy** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 19:03:47

Shore wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:I certainly hope bourjos is a good fielder because he sure as heck doesn't do anything else well.

I would have preferred to hold onto Ogando.

If the plural of anecdote isn't data, then I'm sure the singular of anecdote isn't either.

I'm sure he's a great fielder. He just can't hit AT ALL. He seems like a great 4th OFer on a good team, but is pretty useless on a team in the Phillies' position, imo. Altherr plays a pretty solid CF, as does Herrera, as does Quinn. I just don't see his purpose on the Phils. He didn't cost anything, which is nice, except a roster spot we could have used on someone who isn't redundant.

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 19:17:59

76erfan wrote:doubt they move McCullers and don't think velasquez is all that

id be asking about Preston Tucker and AJ Reed personally

I'm iffy on Preston Tucker, especially since he died in 1956

[Reveal] Spoiler:

He's the car designer they did a movie about w/ Jeff Bridges. "Tucker developed a car so far ahead of its time that the large car manufacturers felt compelled to use corrupt federal bureaucrats to shut him down."

by **ReadingPhilly** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 19:44:48

Bourjos got $2M, Blanco $1.45M to avoid arbitration. Tendered the rest (Hellickson, Galvis, Gomez)

by **smitty** » Wed Dec 02, 2015 21:53:18

Monkeyboy wrote:
Shore wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:I certainly hope bourjos is a good fielder because he sure as heck doesn't do anything else well.

I would have preferred to hold onto Ogando.

If the plural of anecdote isn't data, then I'm sure the singular of anecdote isn't either.

I'm sure he's a great fielder. He just can't hit AT ALL. He seems like a great 4th OFer on a good team, but is pretty useless on a team in the Phillies' position, imo. Altherr plays a pretty solid CF, as does Herrera, as does Quinn. I just don't see his purpose on the Phils. He didn't cost anything, which is nice, except a roster spot we could have used on someone who isn't redundant.

Quinn needs to stay healthy. He isn't ready for the big leagues yet. The Frenchman can keep the bench warm until he's ready. And Bourjos can play some defense during the season when we D up in the OF. Altherrr, Herrera and he would catch damn near everything lofted out there.

by **Jimbo** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 00:48:11

Henderson Alvarez would be an interesting non-tender guy to try to bring in.

by **joe table** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 01:13:51

How much serv time does bourjos has?

Hes a whatever player but i at least like that we're taking advantage of the waiver slot. One of many baffling things re rube was reticence to claim anyone ever with a roster half full of pond scum

by **ReadingPhilly** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 01:23:02

Free agent after this season.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 01:40:01

Jimbo wrote:Henderson Alvarez would be an interesting non-tender guy to try to bring in.

How do the non-tenders work? Is it like waivers?

by **ReadingPhilly** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 01:54:00

Anyone non-tendered is a free agent.

by **Monkeyboy** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 02:42:52

Jimbo wrote:Henderson Alvarez would be an interesting non-tender guy to try to bring in.

I like this, assuming they think his arm won't fall off.

by **Monkeyboy** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 02:46:33

smitty wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:
Shore wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:I certainly hope bourjos is a good fielder because he sure as heck doesn't do anything else well.

I would have preferred to hold onto Ogando.

If the plural of anecdote isn't data, then I'm sure the singular of anecdote isn't either.

I'm sure he's a great fielder. He just can't hit AT ALL. He seems like a great 4th OFer on a good team, but is pretty useless on a team in the Phillies' position, imo. Altherr plays a pretty solid CF, as does Herrera, as does Quinn. I just don't see his purpose on the Phils. He didn't cost anything, which is nice, except a roster spot we could have used on someone who isn't redundant.

Quinn needs to stay healthy. He isn't ready for the big leagues yet. The Frenchman can keep the bench warm until he's ready. And Bourjos can play some defense during the season when we D up in the OF. Altherrr, Herrera and he would catch damn near everything lofted out there.

I would have preferred to keep Ogando.

I just think speedy, defensive-minded CFers is something we already have in spades. I do like using the waiver slot to our advantage and I otherwise wouldn't care one way or another because he's clearly a temporary piece. I just think if we could only keep one of them, I would have preferred to keep Ogando. I'll wait to see how the whole thing plays out though. Maybe they have a plan in which this makes sense.

by **Titlehungry** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 08:12:41

Eem wrote:The Phils have apparently claimed Peter Bourjos off waivers, which is a solid cheap move

FINALLY!!!

by **Bucky** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 09:11:57

Doll Is Mine wrote:
Jimbo wrote:Henderson Alvarez would be an interesting non-tender guy to try to bring in.

How do the non-tenders work? Is it like waivers?

they turn them into mcnuggets

by **BigEd76** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:00:28

DeFratus to the Mariners ... minor league deal

by **pacino** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:02:05

Sandberg wrecked him early in the season, IMO

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