azrider wrote:

BigEd76 wrote:Maik doing the Madson rehab plan, says he's gonna put his wrist through a rigorous test tomorrow

What is the Madson rehab plan and should I be concerned?

BIGPHILLY wrote:* So what's the sentiment on this board regarding signing Jayson Heyward to a deal this offseason?

heyeaglefn wrote:

BIGPHILLY wrote:* So what's the sentiment on this board regarding signing Jayson Heyward to a deal this offseason?

I think most would love it, but I doubt they spend this offseason.

heyeaglefn wrote:

BIGPHILLY wrote:* So what's the sentiment on this board regarding signing Jayson Heyward to a deal this offseason?

I think most would love it, but I doubt they spend this offseason.

Brett Anderson
Bronson Arroyo *
Clay Buchholz *
Mark Buehrle
A.J. Burnett
Trevor Cahill *
Chris Capuano
Jhoulys Chacin
Wei-Yin Chen
Bartolo Colon
Johnny Cueto
Ross Detwiler
R.A. Dickey *
Marco Estrada
Doug Fister
Gavin Floyd
Yovani Gallardo
Jaime Garcia
Zack Greinke (opt-out)
Jeremy Guthrie *
J.A. Happ
Dan Haren
Tim Hudson
Hisashi Iwakuma
Scott Kazmir
Ian Kennedy
John Lackey
Mat Latos
Mike Leake
Colby Lewis
Tim Lincecum
Kyle Lohse
Justin Masterson
Brandon Morrow
Bud Norris
Mike Pelfrey
Rick Porcello
David Price
Jeff Samardzija
Alfredo Simon
Jerome Williams
Jordan Zimmerman

ReadingPhilly wrote:i'd give heyward whatever he asks for. i'd probably do the same for price.

bleh wrote:I'd say no. Let the young guys compete so we can see what we have. Heyward will get like $200 million from someone and we'd probably have to pay even more. And as for selling tickets I don't think the average fan is going to get all that excited about him.

bleh wrote:I'd say no. Let the young guys compete so we can see what we have. Heyward will get like $200 million from someone and we'd probably have to pay even more. And as for selling tickets I don't think the average fan is going to get all that excited about him.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Imagine an OF in 2017 of Nick Williams, Altherr, and Heyward. Use Odubel as a 4th OF/backup IF. Sign me up.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

bleh wrote:I'd say no. Let the young guys compete so we can see what we have. Heyward will get like $200 million from someone and we'd probably have to pay even more. And as for selling tickets I don't think the average fan is going to get all that excited about him.

I don't think Heyward gets that. Only 9 players in MLB history have signed contracts like that. He's an elite defender and an above average hitter (career OPS+113)--not the profile that hits the truly insane level. Probably more in the 7/$120M -$130M range (which would still be one of the 40 or 50 biggest contracts in MLB history). And he'll only be 26 in April, so I doubt the defensive value would drop during the contract.

Imagine an OF in 2017 of Nick Williams, Altherr, and Heyward. Use Odubel as a 4th OF/backup IF. Sign me up.

Bill McNeal wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

bleh wrote:I'd say no. Let the young guys compete so we can see what we have. Heyward will get like $200 million from someone and we'd probably have to pay even more. And as for selling tickets I don't think the average fan is going to get all that excited about him.

I don't think Heyward gets that. Only 9 players in MLB history have signed contracts like that. He's an elite defender and an above average hitter (career OPS+113)--not the profile that hits the truly insane level. Probably more in the 7/$120M -$130M range (which would still be one of the 40 or 50 biggest contracts in MLB history). And he'll only be 26 in April, so I doubt the defensive value would drop during the contract.

Imagine an OF in 2017 of Nick Williams, Altherr, and Heyward. Use Odubel as a 4th OF/backup IF. Sign me up.

So basically we'd be giving Heyward what the Nats gave Werth, but we'd be doing it when Heyward is in his prime as opposed to Werth at the end of his.