Amazing how much easier it is to build up a decent system when you trade every valuable veteran on your roster.

i guess we could be like the barves or us 4 years ago and get back nothing for our trades :D

MoBettle wrote:Amazing how much easier it is to build up a decent system when you trade every valuable veteran on your roster.

* I will politely disagree with this. Bastardo was a classic loogy (3.54 / 1.36 WHIP) that you find in many places. Rollins is washed up he's batting .223 even after a nice run lately with a .640 OPS and his classic 11 HRs because he's trying to be a stud. Byrd is a joke of a journeyman who floats around and is a decent player for a non playoff team. Revere? Laughable.

Papelbon is a legit piece and Hamels is a stud - but for people to see our veterans as valuable when we sucked - was fortuitous.

BIGPHILLY wrote:

MoBettle wrote:Amazing how much easier it is to build up a decent system when you trade every valuable veteran on your roster.

* I will politely disagree with this. Bastardo was a classic loogy (3.54 / 1.36 WHIP) that you find in many places. Rollins is washed up he's batting .223 even after a nice run lately with a .640 OPS and his classic 11 HRs because he's trying to be a stud. Byrd is a joke of a journeyman who floats around and is a decent player for a non playoff team. Revere? Laughable.

Papelbon is a legit piece and Hamels is a stud - but for people to see our veterans as valuable when we sucked - was fortuitous.

Well I was using valuable to mean a player for which someone willing to give value

MoBettle wrote:

BIGPHILLY wrote:

MoBettle wrote:Amazing how much easier it is to build up a decent system when you trade every valuable veteran on your roster.

* I will politely disagree with this. Bastardo was a classic loogy (3.54 / 1.36 WHIP) that you find in many places. Rollins is washed up he's batting .223 even after a nice run lately with a .640 OPS and his classic 11 HRs because he's trying to be a stud. Byrd is a joke of a journeyman who floats around and is a decent player for a non playoff team. Revere? Laughable.

Papelbon is a legit piece and Hamels is a stud - but for people to see our veterans as valuable when we sucked - was fortuitous.

Well I was using valuable to mean a player for which someone willing to give value

Which we received for the above named players.

BIGPHILLY wrote:

MoBettle wrote:Amazing how much easier it is to build up a decent system when you trade every valuable veteran on your roster.

* I will politely disagree with this. Bastardo was a classic loogy (3.54 / 1.36 WHIP) that you find in many places. Rollins is washed up he's batting .223 even after a nice run lately with a .640 OPS and his classic 11 HRs because he's trying to be a stud. Byrd is a joke of a journeyman who floats around and is a decent player for a non playoff team. Revere? Laughable.

Papelbon is a legit piece and Hamels is a stud - but for people to see our veterans as valuable when we sucked - was fortuitous.

Good to know your player valuation skills are better than most mlb gms

Soren wrote:

MoBettle wrote:

BIGPHILLY wrote:

MoBettle wrote:Amazing how much easier it is to build up a decent system when you trade every valuable veteran on your roster.

* I will politely disagree with this. Bastardo was a classic loogy (3.54 / 1.36 WHIP) that you find in many places. Rollins is washed up he's batting .223 even after a nice run lately with a .640 OPS and his classic 11 HRs because he's trying to be a stud. Byrd is a joke of a journeyman who floats around and is a decent player for a non playoff team. Revere? Laughable.

Papelbon is a legit piece and Hamels is a stud - but for people to see our veterans as valuable when we sucked - was fortuitous.

Well I was using valuable to mean a player for which someone willing to give value

Which we received for the above named players.

Yes

Buchanan is outta here....back to LV

Also Heyman says Utley is ready to move on to another team

What a disastrous week for Buchanan. Hopefully the Phillies bring up Eickhoff or Asher.

BigEd76 wrote:Buchanan is outta here....back to LV

Also Heyman says Utley is ready to move on to another team

Look at that rat wanting to jump ship.

Slowhand wrote:

BigEd76 wrote:Buchanan is outta here....back to LV

Also Heyman says Utley is ready to move on to another team

Look at that rat wanting to jump ship.

Watch your fucking mouth when you talk about the man.

(i jest)

BIGPHILLY wrote:

MoBettle wrote:Amazing how much easier it is to build up a decent system when you trade every valuable veteran on your roster.

* I will politely disagree with this. Bastardo was a classic loogy (3.54 / 1.36 WHIP) that you find in many places. Rollins is washed up he's batting .223 even after a nice run lately with a .640 OPS and his classic 11 HRs because he's trying to be a stud. Byrd is a joke of a journeyman who floats around and is a decent player for a non playoff team. Revere? Laughable.

Papelbon is a legit piece and Hamels is a stud - but for people to see our veterans as valuable when we sucked - was fortuitous.

No offense, but the bolded statement is stupid as hell.

Shore wrote:

BIGPHILLY wrote:

MoBettle wrote:Amazing how much easier it is to build up a decent system when you trade every valuable veteran on your roster.

* I will politely disagree with this. Bastardo was a classic loogy (3.54 / 1.36 WHIP) that you find in many places. Rollins is washed up he's batting .223 even after a nice run lately with a .640 OPS and his classic 11 HRs because he's trying to be a stud. Byrd is a joke of a journeyman who floats around and is a decent player for a non playoff team. Revere? Laughable.

Papelbon is a legit piece and Hamels is a stud - but for people to see our veterans as valuable when we sucked - was fortuitous.

No offense, but the bolded statement is stupid as hell.

Not to mention he was a 10 win player between 2012-2014.

Byrd's been good the last few years too but I didn't want to engage.

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi
Sources: #SFGiants and #Phillies in ongoing talks about Chase Utley trade. Stage is advanced enough that prospect names have been discussed.

I might literally cry. This will hit me hard even though I totally get it.

ah goddamnit not the Giants

Fuck this

Makes too much sense but it was enough seeing PTB in that hideous uniform

the fucking giants