Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Bill McNeal » Mon Aug 26, 2013 15:37:48

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby WheelsFellOff » Mon Aug 26, 2013 16:36:01

too easy
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Doll Is Mine » Mon Aug 26, 2013 16:36:52

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby phdave » Mon Aug 26, 2013 21:10:22

Pete Orr is back?
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby smitty » Mon Aug 26, 2013 21:11:19

phdave wrote:Pete Orr is back?


Took Blind Casper Wells spot.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby phdave » Mon Aug 26, 2013 21:19:35

smitty wrote:
phdave wrote:Pete Orr is back?


Took Blind Casper Wells spot.


When I heard Wells was going on the DL I thought we were going to see another round of mini-Mart.
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby ReadingPhilly » Mon Aug 26, 2013 21:41:23

deitch says phils have talked about volquez. he made it through waivers. might be worth a look as a reliever.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby blueclaw » Mon Aug 26, 2013 22:01:54

Steaks has an article up with the same thing, with a quote from Amaro saying that they're considering it.
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Aug 26, 2013 23:15:44

I remember when Volquez for Hamilton seemed like such a big deal, and such a win-win.
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby drsmooth » Mon Aug 26, 2013 23:45:23

is the phils' remaining schedule crummy enough to give them a shot at only losing 10 more games
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby choco » Mon Aug 26, 2013 23:45:25

Cano to the Phillies? Olney speculates. http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/buster- ... st?id=2986

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As noted, they have Utley. But keep in mind that in the fall of 2007, when the Yankees weren't sure whether they would be able to re-sign Rodriguez, they had a discussion then about whether there would be a day when Cano would move to third base. He has the strong arm required to play the position, for sure. Or, if Cano signed, maybe the choice would be for Utley to shift to third.

The Phillies, like the Nationals, might be looking for a way to change the conversation about the future, to provide some hope for their fan base -- especially at a time when the team is embarking on negotiations for a new television contract.


1) Utley's not going to 3B
2) It would balance the lineup
3) I wouldn't sign him for more than 5 years and he probably wouldn't take less than 7 or 8
4) There's no way it would be worth outbidding the Yankees for Cano's age 31-40 seasons
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby bleh » Tue Aug 27, 2013 00:05:04

god no

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby phorever » Tue Aug 27, 2013 06:51:04

sydnor wrote:I don't like the idea of Franco being the short side (Right handed batters get max 25% of the ab in a strict platoon, and him serving at two different positions doesn't really increase that.) We can't be bringing up a 21 year old, next year, with this guy's future to play 25% of the time.


there is no rule saying platoons need to be strict. given howard's durability, defense, and lefty issues and franco's more than respectable same-side splits this season, even the phillies might well choose to limit howard to no more than 4 starts per week regardless of the opposing starter, and put franco in for defense at 1b in the late innings even when the opposition can't easily line up howard to face a lefty reliever. when you want both asche and howard sitting against a tough lefty starter, or need to ph for asche and upgrade defense at 1b, you go with franco at 3b, ruf at 1b, and mayberry in the outfield corner.

at least 3 starts per week plus being the first bat off the bench gets franco to something like 50% of the pa's of a full-time starter.
my favorite examples are the chamberlain-eisy and thompson-inky platoons of the 93 phils. the latter may be most relevant because the lefty eisy had health issues and needed extra rest. another one off the top of my head is that the senior citizen version of julio franco got a bunch of pa's in 1b platoons on several occasions. some of those happened because the platoon partner got injured or arrived late... but injury is a big part of the howard situation, and franco wasn't really an option at 3b to get him extra pa's.
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby phorever » Tue Aug 27, 2013 07:06:08

looking more and more like ruf can hold the fort better than most fa/trade options till someone like dugan arrives to give him platoon support as pitchers start to figure him out.

upgrading the outfield has moved down my list of offseason priorities.
given the impressive recent performance of diekman and the fact that that martin looks like a better fit for the pen than the rotation at least for next year, the pen too has dropped down the list.

i don't believe chooch will be able to keep on producing much longer, and rupp needs to keep up the late-season aaa surge a bit longer to make him seem like a safe option, so catching remains high on list.

starting pitching has to be the top priority, though. i don't see anyone we really can count on right now beyond lee and hamels.
so... who would a smart gm target?
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Aug 27, 2013 07:44:56

very little chance of it happening after the utley signing, but i'd be stoked if they got cano.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Soren » Tue Aug 27, 2013 08:09:17

Cano has "fast and catastrophic decline" written all over him.
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Napalm » Tue Aug 27, 2013 08:51:54

Soren wrote:Cano has "fast and catastrophic decline" written all over him.

sounds like a phillies already

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:15:21

Soren wrote:Cano has "fast and catastrophic decline" written all over him.


interested as to what you leads you to believe that.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Bucky » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:17:31

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby my cousin mose » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:24:11

ReadingPhilly wrote:very little chance of it happening after the utley signing, but i'd be stoked if they got cano.

yeah, i'm in the same boat. i know it's probably a terrible idea.
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