smitty wrote:Let me the first to say I don't care about what Rollins said one bit.

swishnicholson wrote:

smitty wrote:Let me the first to say I don't care about what Rollins said one bit.

Dammit, I wanted to be the first.

Grotewold wrote:

phdave wrote:6 more caught stealings and he is #1 (Bowa).

He needs to be hit by 128 more pitches to pass Utley (+ any Utley HBP from now on).

22 more triples to pass Magee.

285 more runs to pass Schmidt.

108 more hits and he passes Schmidt and Ashburn.

3 more popups to pass Stephen Starr

"I definitely didn't come here for this," he said.

Papelbon carries an influential presence in the Phillies' clubhouse as the team's closer, a nine-year veteran and World Series champion. Asked what he thought about the direction the organization is headed, he sighed.

"Oh, man," he said. "We could be here all day."

So then what about this team's ability to turn things around, if not this season, then next season?

"It's going to take, in my opinion, a lot," he said. "And in my opinion, I think it's going to have to be something very similar to what the Red Sox went through a couple years ago. From top to bottom."

Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr., declined comment.

In 2011, the Red Sox entered September in first place in the American League East, but finished 7-20 to miss the postseason. The club and manager Terry Francona parted ways following the season, and general manager Theo Epstein also departed.

Players soon followed.

That included Papelbon.

"That's part of it," he said about Boston's decision not to bring him back. "That's part of the business. If you want to go in a different direction and I'm not a piece of that puzzle, so be it. This is a job. There are no feelings in this game. I left. Carl [Crawford] left. [Josh] Beckett left. Adrian [Gonzalez] left. Now look at them."

The Red Sox had the second-best record in the AL entering Sunday.

Asked after the game if he wants to be traded, Papelbon said, "No, I would like to stay here. But if I'm going to have to put up with this year after year, then no, I don't want to be here. Why would you? Why would anybody?"

nycphils wrote:

Bill McNeal wrote:I have no problem with the quote, he's an all time Phil, and wants to go out here is how I read it. Wouldn't it be more selfish to be saying "I want outta here for another shot at a ring!"?

I agree to some extent, but it is a bit stupid to say it.

JFLNYC wrote:I don't care either. I do, however, care that he's continuing down the path to suckage.

Trent Steele wrote:

"I definitely didn't come here for this," he said.

Papelbon carries an influential presence in the Phillies' clubhouse as the team's closer, a nine-year veteran and World Series champion. Asked what he thought about the direction the organization is headed, he sighed.

"Oh, man," he said. "We could be here all day."

So then what about this team's ability to turn things around, if not this season, then next season?

"It's going to take, in my opinion, a lot," he said. "And in my opinion, I think it's going to have to be something very similar to what the Red Sox went through a couple years ago. From top to bottom."

Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr., declined comment.

In 2011, the Red Sox entered September in first place in the American League East, but finished 7-20 to miss the postseason. The club and manager Terry Francona parted ways following the season, and general manager Theo Epstein also departed.

Players soon followed.

That included Papelbon.

"That's part of it," he said about Boston's decision not to bring him back. "That's part of the business. If you want to go in a different direction and I'm not a piece of that puzzle, so be it. This is a job. There are no feelings in this game. I left. Carl [Crawford] left. [Josh] Beckett left. Adrian [Gonzalez] left. Now look at them."

The Red Sox had the second-best record in the AL entering Sunday.

Asked after the game if he wants to be traded, Papelbon said, "No, I would like to stay here. But if I'm going to have to put up with this year after year, then no, I don't want to be here. Why would you? Why would anybody?"

Even though he is 100% correct, I can't imagine how anyone on this board would feel anything but straight-fucking-hate for Papelbon

David Murphy ‏@ByDavidMurphy 34s

Jonathan Papelbon is right, things need to change, starting with decisions like signing Jonathan Papelbon to a $50 mil contract

usctrojans31 wrote:Maybe we can pawn Papelbon off on the Dodgers too. Hell, include Cliff Lee, make the deal for Joc Pederson, Zach Lee, Dee Gordon and Paco Rodriguez. We fill many areas of need, and have money with which to play in the offseason.

dajafi wrote:

usctrojans31 wrote:Maybe we can pawn Papelbon off on the Dodgers too. Hell, include Cliff Lee, make the deal for Joc Pederson, Zach Lee, Dee Gordon and Paco Rodriguez. We fill many areas of need, and have money with which to play in the offseason.

I'd consider that, but important to keep in mind--and this is weird to write--there's not that much to spend on in the offseason.

Seriously, the best pitchers are guys like AJ Burnett and Hiroki Kuroda. It's a little better on the hitting side, but not much.

dajafi wrote:

usctrojans31 wrote:Maybe we can pawn Papelbon off on the Dodgers too. Hell, include Cliff Lee, make the deal for Joc Pederson, Zach Lee, Dee Gordon and Paco Rodriguez. We fill many areas of need, and have money with which to play in the offseason.

I'd consider that, but important to keep in mind--and this is weird to write--there's not that much to spend on in the offseason.

Seriously, the best pitchers are guys like AJ Burnett and Hiroki Kuroda. It's a little better on the hitting side, but not much.