Where's Ruben Amaro? (Phillies random thread)

by **bleh** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 13:32:58

Just noticed that Pence is 14-0 on SB this year. He used to be terrible at stealing, then he stopped altogether, now he's suddenly great at it.

by **usctrojans31** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 13:50:29

From roto:

CBS Sports' Jon Heyman hears that the asking price for left-hander Cliff Lee is "extremely high."
"[Phillies GM Ruben Amaro Jr. is] telling people it'll take you [sic] three or four best prospects, plus you'd have to take all the money," a competing executive told CBS Sports on Monday. Lee, 34, is owed $25 million in 2014, another $25 million in 2015, and he carries a $27.5 million vesting option (or a $12.5 million buyout) for 2016. He seems likely to ultimately stay put in Philadelphia

Seems like posturing on both fronts.

by **heyeaglefn** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:18:44

Nick Cafardo ‏@nickcafardo 5m
Red Sox and Phillies have engaged in talks on Cliff Lee and Michael Young, but Sox won't deal top prospects.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:19:18

well fuck them

by **phillies** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:20:22

what i don't understand is why reportedly we want whatever club is dealing for lee to take all the $$$ remaining on his contract. if that's the case, then i don't get what our plan is and the MAG signing the other day doesn't give me as much hope for our financial advantage going forward.

by **Grotewold** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:23:22

phillies wrote:what i don't understand is why reportedly we want whatever club is dealing for lee to take all the $$$ remaining on his contract. if that's the case, then i don't get what our plan is and the MAG signing the other day doesn't give me as much hope for our financial advantage going forward.

Probably just the first step in the negotiation. I think they'd end up eating this year's salary. Beyond that, 3/75 isn't crazy at all for teams like Boston and L.A.

This is a rare difference-maker

by **phdave** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:26:29

Why wouldn't they want the other club to take all the $$$ remaining on his contract? That's like wondering why they would want good prospects in return.

by **Bucky** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:27:23

76erfan wrote:so basically we are stuck with howard, utley, rollins again in our infield. SMH

that's the way it should be. After our 63-99 2016 season, all three will ride off into the sunset and retire together and play in the 2017 old-timers game at CBP.

by **Eem** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:32:33

heyeaglefn wrote:Nick Cafardo ‏@nickcafardo 5m
Red Sox and Phillies have engaged in talks on Cliff Lee and Michael Young, but Sox won't deal top prospects.

Red Sox want good players, don't want to give up good players.

Analysis

by **Trent Steele** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:36:28

I think Boston makes the most sense for that kind of package deal. Better not be a Middlebrooks pu pu platter

by **LongDrive** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:40:41

Jackie Bradley

by **Soren** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:41:13

Trent Steele wrote:I think Boston makes the most sense for that kind of package deal. Better not be a Middlebrooks pu pu platter

I mean, if you look on the back of his most recently printed baseball card you'd see he clearly produces.

by **heyeaglefn** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:42:42

Eem wrote:
heyeaglefn wrote:Nick Cafardo ‏@nickcafardo 5m
Red Sox and Phillies have engaged in talks on Cliff Lee and Michael Young, but Sox won't deal top prospects.

Red Sox want good players, don't want to give up good players.

Analysis

No team wants to take on Cliff Lee's contract AND give up top prospects without the Phillies eating salary.

The Red Sox top prospects are top prospects in all of baseball too, not like what they got in the Pence deal.

I don't think they move Lee, Amaro won't eat the money required to get the good prospects.

by **heyeaglefn** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:43:15

Bring me Xander

by **Napalm** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:45:02

I think Rubes stance on Lee is, "ill trade him if I get an offer that blows me out of the water", but "i dont mind keeping him and trying to contend again next year". And certainly, "i wont just give him away"

by **Wheels Tupay** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:47:00

heyeaglefn wrote:
Eem wrote:
heyeaglefn wrote:Nick Cafardo ‏@nickcafardo 5m
Red Sox and Phillies have engaged in talks on Cliff Lee and Michael Young, but Sox won't deal top prospects.

Red Sox want good players, don't want to give up good players.

Analysis

No team wants to take on Cliff Lee's contract AND give up top prospects without the Phillies eating salary.

The Red Sox top prospects are top prospects in all of baseball too, not like what they got in the Pence deal.

I don't think they move Lee, Amaro won't eat the money required to get the good prospects.

Yeah how dare the Phillies ask for a good return on one of the best pitchers in the NL that has a very reasonable contract. God damn it, Rube.

by **Eem** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:47:41

Salisbury indicates they won't deal Lee to Boston without Boegarts or JBJ

by **LongDrive** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:47:57

Really hoping the A's land Peavy.

by **rolex** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:49:44

"They want me to pay somehow")-Feck (Dennis Hopper) in "River's Edge"

by **Phred** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 14:54:53

Dom was getting re-examined today. Anybody know if he has been cleared to play?

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