Productive Outs - Phillies Random Thoughts

by **threecount** » Fri May 31, 2013 01:53:21

Great stat:

Ryan Howard has 7 HRs in his last 178 major league ABs ... Carlos Zambrano has 7 HRs in his last 178 major league ABs.

by **nycphils** » Fri May 31, 2013 08:13:00

Doesn't sound like Manuel is the problem (from Bob Ford's column):

"Low on-base percentage and the lack of the number of hits," Manuel said, diagnosing the offense's main issues.

"With all the information you've got out there, scouting reports and computers, pitchers go to school on hitters, and they know if they go 2-0, they can throw a slow curve or a change-up and, even if they can't hit it, they're going to swing at it," Manuel said. "If you fall behind, you don't panic, because you know he doesn't have any walks, and he's going to swing. It's not hard to figure out."

by **heyeaglefn** » Fri May 31, 2013 08:57:45

nycphils wrote:Doesn't sound like Manuel is the problem (from Bob Ford's column):

"Low on-base percentage and the lack of the number of hits," Manuel said, diagnosing the offense's main issues.

"With all the information you've got out there, scouting reports and computers, pitchers go to school on hitters, and they know if they go 2-0, they can throw a slow curve or a change-up and, even if they can't hit it, they're going to swing at it," Manuel said. "If you fall behind, you don't panic, because you know he doesn't have any walks, and he's going to swing. It's not hard to figure out."

So you are saying every single person on the team knows what Charlie wants, but nobody is listening? That sounds like a Manuel problem to me.

by **Bucky** » Fri May 31, 2013 12:54:19

does not bode well for the dynamic duo

by **Doll Is Mine** » Fri May 31, 2013 13:15:49

Has Charlie reached lame duck status?

by **Bill McNeal** » Fri May 31, 2013 13:21:13

If Charlie leaves after this season, lavy will be the longest tenured pro coach in the city. In other words, the Flyers will have the longest tenured coach in the city. The flyers.

by **Soren** » Fri May 31, 2013 15:39:00

Minor league OPS:
Joe Savery-.741
Michael Martinez-.682
Freddy Galvis .613

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Fri May 31, 2013 15:54:46

So Savery is now the second-best PH on the roster?

by **The Nightman Cometh** » Fri May 31, 2013 16:05:13

heyeaglefn wrote:
nycphils wrote:Doesn't sound like Manuel is the problem (from Bob Ford's column):

"Low on-base percentage and the lack of the number of hits," Manuel said, diagnosing the offense's main issues.

"With all the information you've got out there, scouting reports and computers, pitchers go to school on hitters, and they know if they go 2-0, they can throw a slow curve or a change-up and, even if they can't hit it, they're going to swing at it," Manuel said. "If you fall behind, you don't panic, because you know he doesn't have any walks, and he's going to swing. It's not hard to figure out."

So you are saying every single person on the team knows what Charlie wants, but nobody is listening? That sounds like a Manuel problem to me.

I think when everyone watches this team play they realize that the manager is clearly the problem.

by **Wheels Tupay** » Fri May 31, 2013 16:13:49

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:So Savery is now the second-best PH on the roster?

OF by the end of the year will be Savery, Zambrano and Brown.

Zambrano will man center.

They will also be our 3,4,5 hitters

by **Grotewold** » Fri May 31, 2013 16:59:24

#Shouldofkeptholtz

by **Barry Jive** » Fri May 31, 2013 17:13:36

The Nightman Cometh wrote:
heyeaglefn wrote:
nycphils wrote:Doesn't sound like Manuel is the problem (from Bob Ford's column):

"Low on-base percentage and the lack of the number of hits," Manuel said, diagnosing the offense's main issues.

"With all the information you've got out there, scouting reports and computers, pitchers go to school on hitters, and they know if they go 2-0, they can throw a slow curve or a change-up and, even if they can't hit it, they're going to swing at it," Manuel said. "If you fall behind, you don't panic, because you know he doesn't have any walks, and he's going to swing. It's not hard to figure out."

So you are saying every single person on the team knows what Charlie wants, but nobody is listening? That sounds like a Manuel problem to me.

I think when everyone watches this team play they realize that the manager is clearly the problem.

How many guys on the team had shown any signs of being able to draw a walk before coming here? The Phillies went out and got Ben Revere, Michael Young and Delmon Young after previously acquiring Laynce Nix and Kevin Frandsen as guys who would fill out a roster. Which of those guys did you expect to start taking walks when they got here? Which of them had good pitch selection?

The acquisitions those guys have replaced were people like Raul Ibanez, Hunter Pence, Placido Polanco, Ben Francisco and Juan Castro. Where were the walks coming from there? Whether Rube had a strategy involved with devaluing walks or not, it's clear they're not a part of his plan

by **The Nightman Cometh** » Fri May 31, 2013 17:16:40

Sarcasm, Barry.

by **Barry Jive** » Fri May 31, 2013 17:19:51

hard to tell with some of the stuff you say

by **The Nightman Cometh** » Fri May 31, 2013 18:04:42

Not really, pretty consistent with baseball.

by **Barry Jive** » Fri May 31, 2013 18:23:02

even so, either eaglfn was serious and my post can be directed at him or you were just repeating his sarcastic joke, which is weird

by **JFLNYC** » Fri May 31, 2013 18:33:28

Misunderstanding or not, Barry's right. MLB hitters don't generally change their approach much once they get to the majors. So Charlie or Milt or GG or Wally or Steve can preach until they're blue in the face but it won't matter much, if at all, when it comes to developing patience or situational understanding. That's why it was such a joke before last season when they said the team was going to focus more on situational hitting. The composition of our roster of hitters is on Rube.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Fri May 31, 2013 23:08:33

small rotator cuff tear for morgan. won't throw for three weeks.

by **Barry Jive** » Sat Jun 01, 2013 02:27:59

if there are no other injuries, Lannan should be back by then anyway, sending Cloyd down. Zambrano's gotta make it up by July 1 or he'll ask for his release, so that's probably what bumps Pettibone down unless Z just sucks ass his next couple starts

by **rolex** » Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:11:44

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phi ... trics.html
This article is a bit old but it clearly indicates that the Phillies are flying by the seat of their pants way too often. Scouting is important but being able to read the numbers matters as well. The ones near the end of the article on Delmon Young are significant and prove why he's been no savior for the offense.

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