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Postby mcare89 » Sun May 05, 2013 18:20:38

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
Wheels Tupay wrote:I hope that wasn't Roy's last start as a Phillies.

Since he will be a FA next year, who is going to sign him? Hope that if he gives it a go next year, it's as a Phillies

I think plenty of teams will take a chance on Roy Halladay being decent. I mean, look how long it took teams to figure out that Oswalt was cooked. They still haven't.

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Sun May 05, 2013 18:21:40

mcare89 wrote:
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
Wheels Tupay wrote:I hope that wasn't Roy's last start as a Phillies.

Since he will be a FA next year, who is going to sign him? Hope that if he gives it a go next year, it's as a Phillies

I think plenty of teams will take a chance on Roy Halladay being decent. I mean, look how long it took teams to figure out that Oswalt was cooked. They still haven't.

Oswalt never fell off the cliff quite like this
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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun May 05, 2013 18:24:07

He'll need to show he can come back and pitch. Teams will give him tryouts. If it looks like he can still pitch, someone will sign him.

But let's see what the problem is here first.
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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby mcare89 » Sun May 05, 2013 18:24:28

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
mcare89 wrote:
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
Wheels Tupay wrote:I hope that wasn't Roy's last start as a Phillies.

Since he will be a FA next year, who is going to sign him? Hope that if he gives it a go next year, it's as a Phillies

I think plenty of teams will take a chance on Roy Halladay being decent. I mean, look how long it took teams to figure out that Oswalt was cooked. They still haven't.

Oswalt never fell off the cliff quite like this

I think that actually helps his case. His agent can go to teams and say "Come on, nobody falls off the table like this, he's clearly not a 9 ERA pitcher. He was hurt. He's fine now!"

I mean, I think if Roy wants to come back, he'll be here. But I don't think it's a slam dunk cheap one-year deal.

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby usctrojans31 » Sun May 05, 2013 18:32:00

If Halladay is indeed cooked, I wonder what it means for Lee. On one hand, the team will likely be struggling and desperately in need of a talent infusion, but on the other hand, it might make Lord Smug want to hold on to him and try to buy talent in a weak FA class.

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Trent Steele » Sun May 05, 2013 18:37:00

Burn the entire mother fucker down.
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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Brantt » Sun May 05, 2013 18:41:23

LOL at Manuel saying over and over that Doc is healthy at the exact moment Amaro and Halladay are telling the media he's hurt.

Embarassing and Flyers-esque.
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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Trent Steele » Sun May 05, 2013 18:42:51

I can't prove it, but both Halladay and Amaro are full of shit. It's been his shoulder all along not the absurd, bullshit excuses for the last 9 months. They both knew it.
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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby FTN » Sun May 05, 2013 18:46:19

if his shoulder is fucked, hes done for 6-9 months. which is probably the same scenario last year. so instead of facing facts, he tried to gut his way through it to help the team.

when you try to play the hero, normally bad things happen

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Slowhand » Sun May 05, 2013 18:50:19

Trent Steele wrote:I can't prove it, but both Halladay and Amaro are full of shit. It's been his shoulder all along not the absurd, bullshit excuses for the last 9 months. They both knew it.


Yep. Even if he lost a couple MPH just from getting older, no way does a healthy Halladay pitch as poorly as he has. It's been obvious for a while that he's been injured.
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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby CFP » Sun May 05, 2013 18:54:09

Trent Steele wrote:I can't prove it, but both Halladay and Amaro are full of shit. It's been his shoulder all along not the absurd, bullshit excuses for the last 9 months. They both knew it.


Thought it was gonna be the Maclin AIDS, oh well

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby usctrojans31 » Sun May 05, 2013 18:55:32

Hopefully Halladay's injury expedites a Cliff Lee trade. Any of the potential interested teams (LAA, LAD, BOS, BAL) would be better served with him earlier than later. I see the best two fits for Lee as LAD or BOS; both have the prospects and financial resources to give the right return.

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby danrosz » Sun May 05, 2013 19:08:10

Trent Steele wrote:I can't prove it, but both Halladay and Amaro are full of shit. It's been his shoulder all along not the absurd, bullshit excuses for the last 9 months. They both knew it.


I don't know... After Halladay had those three good starts, Dubee was pretty arrogant about the media killing him off prematurely...

Dubee brusquely declined to speak about Halladay’s work during an interview session with reporters Sunday.

“I’m not going to talk about it,” Dubee said. “Everybody bashed Roy Halladay long enough. Now he has a couple of good ones and all of a sudden he’s a Cy Young candidate. You guys ride that roller coaster and we’ll stay where we’re at. Let Roy be Roy.”


I don't think he does that if he knows Halladay's shoulder is cooked.

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby bleh » Sun May 05, 2013 19:13:53

How is tempering high expectations being arrogant?

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby FTN » Sun May 05, 2013 19:15:46

fwiw, i hope they bring up adam morgan. you may as well let him learn at this level so we can see if hes ready to hold down a spot next year. cloyd is garbage

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Ace Rothstein » Sun May 05, 2013 19:19:58

FTN wrote:fwiw, i hope they bring up adam morgan. you may as well let him learn at this level so we can see if hes ready to hold down a spot next year. cloyd is garbage


Yeah I rather see Morgan here than Cloyd

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby danrosz » Sun May 05, 2013 19:20:12

bleh wrote:How is tempering high expectations being arrogant?


at the time, i remember reporters saying it was coming off as dubee being smug with an i told you so type of tone... but he actually may have just been tempering expectations...

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby CFP » Sun May 05, 2013 19:28:43

Certainly hoping for Morgan as well

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Grotewold » Sun May 05, 2013 19:29:36

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Re: I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Wheels Tupay » Sun May 05, 2013 19:29:53

So we lost 14-2 twice in about a week span. Impressive.
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