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Postby CalvinBall » Mon Oct 31, 2011 22:59:30

Does anyone else hope Mackannin gets the Red Sox job? I do if they promote Ryne to fill his spot.

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby SK790 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 23:00:51

there's a thread for that.
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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Oct 31, 2011 23:02:20

yea i saw that. before you told me too!

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby SK790 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 23:05:19

gold stars for you, calvin.
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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby Wheels Tupay » Mon Oct 31, 2011 23:37:43

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby 1 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 00:06:18

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby SK790 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 00:07:39

emptying bank account to sponsor it.
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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:24:23

Elias says Rollins, Madson and Oswalt are Type A, and Ibanez and Lidge are Type B

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:30:02

Lots of picks coming the Phillies way!

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby Werthless » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:39:46

CalvinBall wrote:Lots of picks coming the Phillies way!

So we're probably offering arb to our A's (even Oswalt?) and not our B's, lest they accept.

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:42:56

I would hope so. Rollins and Madson surely won't accept. Oswalt likely won't either since he hates Philadelphia. Already looking forward to the draft!

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby stevemc » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:57:31

I highly doubt the Phils offer Oswalt arbitration. They declined his $16MM '12 salary and they have to offer him 70% of his '11 ($16MM) number at least in arb I believe so that's $11.2 MM. Madson and Rollins make sense.

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby Wheels Tupay » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:57:50

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby momadance » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:08:27

No way they offer Oswalt arb.

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby phatj » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:49:48

I would have thought that Oswalt's contract would make him ineligible for arb.
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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby Bill McNeal » Tue Nov 01, 2011 13:03:32

Weren't people saying we should bring back Oswalt on a 2/20 type deal? If that was a viable option, wouldn't 1/11.2 be an acceptable risk? Especially since if he turns it down we get 2 draft pics? I'd love to get those 3 1st round and 3 supplemental round picks. Restocking the farm would be badass.
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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Nov 01, 2011 13:05:32

i'd offer him arb in a heartbeat.

he's not going to accept it. and if he does then you'll get a solid pitcher at a decent price

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby stevemc » Tue Nov 01, 2011 13:11:58

jamiethekiller wrote:i'd offer him arb in a heartbeat.

he's not going to accept it. and if he does then you'll get a solid pitcher at a decent price


Decent price if you think the Phils win at $11.2MM I guess. What if Oswalt wins at $16MM? That's on top of the fact he just got $2MM from the Phils to walk.

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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby Bill McNeal » Tue Nov 01, 2011 13:56:29

That's a good question, and I don't know a ton about arb awards, but isn't it based on prior season performance? He was 9-10 and pitched 139 innings with 3.69 ERA. That is the fewest IP of his career, and his second highest ERA of his career. His 3.69 ERA puts him at 39th in the league among pitchers with at least 100 IP, tied with Randy Wolf, Javier Vazquez and Joe Saunders.

For comparison 2011 salaries for the 3 above pitchers
Vazquez 7 mil
Wolf 9.5 mil
Saunders 5.5 mil ( I don't think he has enough service time to be an FA though)
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Re: Phillies thoughts of the random persuasion

Postby Grotewold » Tue Nov 01, 2011 13:57:41

Just put Sarge in as the negotiator

And record it, in high-quality audio

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