jamiethekiller wrote:Question on the Luxury tax.

Is it on everything AFTER 170 or whatever million or do they then tax you on the entire payroll?

i thought it was on the entire payroll when you went over the threshhold. i know that normal taxes don't work that way but i thought MLB's did.

A team that goes over the luxury tax cap for the first time in a five-year period pays a penalty of 22.5% of the amount they were over the cap, second-time violators pay a 30% penalty, and teams that exceed the limit three or more times pay a 40% penalty. The cap limit for 2010 is $170 million, and the cap for 2011 is $178 million.[9]

jamiethekiller wrote:

jamiethekiller wrote:Question on the Luxury tax.

Is it on everything AFTER 170 or whatever million or do they then tax you on the entire payroll?

i thought it was on the entire payroll when you went over the threshhold. i know that normal taxes don't work that way but i thought MLB's did.

wiki answered my question:

A team that goes over the luxury tax cap for the first time in a five-year period pays a penalty of 22.5% of the amount they were over the cap, second-time violators pay a 30% penalty, and teams that exceed the limit three or more times pay a 40% penalty. The cap limit for 2010 is $170 million, and the cap for 2011 is $178 million.[9]

yeah, no reason why they shouldn't go over the cap.

CFP wrote:My apologies to anyone who watches this. I was totally unaware this happened yesterday.

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Bill McNeal wrote:

CFP wrote:My apologies to anyone who watches this. I was totally unaware this happened yesterday.

http://www.twitvid.com/1XQW4

That is amazing. I had not seen that.

mozartpc27 wrote:I don't exactly know what the Fan ELO rater is on b-r, as I haven't bothered to research it, but right now it says that Larry Bowa is the #647 batter of all time - and Pat Burrell is #649. Whatever ELO is, it's worthless.

philliesphhan wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:I don't exactly know what the Fan ELO rater is on b-r, as I haven't bothered to research it, but right now it says that Larry Bowa is the #647 batter of all time - and Pat Burrell is #649. Whatever ELO is, it's worthless.

Tis meaningless. Fans vote; you can too.

So, if the Phillies still want Pence, Wade's cell phone is still turned on and he's still tuned in. The price for Pence is high, as it should be for a guy who entered Monday hitting .308 with 62 RBIs, with a rifle right-field arm that led the National League with nine outfield assists.

The key question for the Phillies is probably whether they're willing to part with their own rightfielder, 23-year-old Domonic Brown. If that is the question, the answer has to be yes.

"That's a good trade for both clubs, but the Astros would need more to make it happen," a National League scout said.

If that's the case, then the Phillies should offer Brown and more.

A year ago, it took three players - major-league ready J.A. Happ and minor-league prospects Jonathan Villar and Anthony Gose - to pry Roy Oswalt away from the Astros. Pence, 28, is younger, cheaper and an everyday player who will not be a free agent until after the 2013 season.

If it takes Brown, single-A Clearwater first baseman Jonathan Singleton, and even Clearwater pitcher Jared Cosart, then the Phillies need to get the deal done because Pence is the guy who gives them the best chance of winning the 2011 World Series.

The B1G Piece wrote:Hilarious twitter massacre because some douchebag from Brooklyn is trying to compare Freddy Garcia's season to CLIFF LEE'S season, which was RT'd by none other than Buster_ESPN, who proves he is completely incapable of doing his job, AGAIN.

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@RFOvieMudo & Lee pitches to a pitcher batting 600 times a year.. While Garcia faces big papi, guerrero etc..

CFP wrote:My apologies to anyone who watches this. I was totally unaware this happened yesterday.

http://www.twitvid.com/1XQW4

Titlehungry wrote:So Lee throws all 162 games and the opposing pitcher faces him close to 4 times per game in each one... got it!

ek wrote:

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Brookover

So, if the Phillies still want Pence, Wade's cell phone is still turned on and he's still tuned in. The price for Pence is high, as it should be for a guy who entered Monday hitting .308 with 62 RBIs, with a rifle right-field arm that led the National League with nine outfield assists.

The key question for the Phillies is probably whether they're willing to part with their own rightfielder, 23-year-old Domonic Brown. If that is the question, the answer has to be yes.

"That's a good trade for both clubs, but the Astros would need more to make it happen," a National League scout said.

If that's the case, then the Phillies should offer Brown and more.

A year ago, it took three players - major-league ready J.A. Happ and minor-league prospects Jonathan Villar and Anthony Gose - to pry Roy Oswalt away from the Astros. Pence, 28, is younger, cheaper and an everyday player who will not be a free agent until after the 2013 season.

If it takes Brown, single-A Clearwater first baseman Jonathan Singleton, and even Clearwater pitcher Jared Cosart, then the Phillies need to get the deal done because Pence is the guy who gives them the best chance of winning the 2011 World Series.

sheesh

Bill McNeal wrote:I could see making an argument that a Brown for Pence swap makes some kind of sense, I personally wouldn't do it, but I could understand an argument in favor of it, but giving up Brown, Singleton, and Cosart is just insane unless you are getting Kemp or Ubaldo.

Eem wrote:It's amazing how so many people who cover the game have no idea about it