2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Soren » Tue May 31, 2011 09:27:56

So, watching the games it seemed to me that Howard has been hitting proportionally more HRs to RF this year.

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I seriously doubt his HR/FB rate to LF is going to stay so abysmally low, and he isn't pulling the ball more often.


Phillippe Aumont is quietly having a very, very good season at AA. 12.2 K/9, 2.3 BB/9 in 23.2 IP, 53 GB% according to first inning.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Barry Jive » Tue May 31, 2011 09:49:59

I was bitching about Gload/the Phils' lack of a left-handed bench bat in the gamethread yesterday. FanGraphs to the rescue:

PLAYER: Jim Thome
TEAM: Twins
POSSIBLE DESTINATION(S): Phillies
CONTRACT STATUS: One-year, $3 million, FA in 2012
PROJECTED WAR: 1.0

Thome cannot play the field anymore. He joked that he left his glove in Chicago when the Dodgers acquired him from the White Sox for the 2009 stretch-run. At 40 years old he also is close to the end of his career. Having said that, he still can be productive, and last year he gave the Twins 340 PAs of his peak offensive production. Thome returning to the Phillies wouldn’t only be a great story (his big contract back in 2003 helped usher in the Citizens Bank Park era of Phillies baseball), but he’d legitimately help the team.

Whether he pinch-hits or he serves as the designated hitter in interleague games, Thome would give the Phillies another huge weapon at minimal cost, which is a key consideration given the team’s proximity to the luxury tax threshold. Since Thome and Kubel are the Twins’ only assets capable of generating a decent return, GM Bill Smith can’t afford to get greedy and ask for the world.

From the Phillies standpoint, Ross Gload is battling a severe hip injury that will either force him to play with pain or will end his season. What makes more sense for a championship contending team: 60% of a mediocre left-handed pinch-hitter, or 100% of one of the best left-handed hitters in major league history who can still mash? That answer is pretty clear. The move might be a long-shot, especially if Gload isn’t put on the disabled list, but it makes sense on several levels.


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I wondered a couple years ago why they didn't make a play for him in August via waiver trade considering he was already on the payroll. But maybe he just got blocked or something. Still, seems like Gload would have to be shelved for the rest of the season for this to happen, seeing as they don't want two guys on the bench who can't play D.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby kopphanatic » Tue May 31, 2011 10:16:23

It would be pretty awesome for Big Jim to come back and finally get his ring.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Eem » Tue May 31, 2011 10:19:51

If we could get Thome, Doc, CILF, and Lil Roy a ring all in the same year I'd cry
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Tue May 31, 2011 10:22:44

I have absolutely zero problem having Thome come back to fill the Stairs role, I could see Rizzotti finally being sent to an AL team like he should be but there's not enough return there on the Twins' end in that case.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby The B1G Piece » Tue May 31, 2011 10:26:28

Reading some various Nationals forums, they really hate us (as in the fans).

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Soren » Tue May 31, 2011 10:28:24

The B1G Piece wrote:Reading some various Nationals forums, they really hate us (as in the fans).


2006-2008 Mets fans are to Phillies fans as Phillies fans are to Nats fans.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Wolfgang622 » Tue May 31, 2011 10:37:06

Thome to the Phils is a nice idea, but a non-starter. Stairs, limited as he was, played in the field in 2008 and 2009 on a few occasions (4 games in 2008, 15 games in 2009). In the NL, I'm not sure you can carry a player who truly can't play the field, and if Thome cannot, the Phils would be better off going in another direction.

Also, I am guessing that Thome, a regular for almost his entire career, needs to get regular ABs in order to be effective. Stairs was used to pinch hitting when he was brought here.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Trent Steele » Tue May 31, 2011 11:12:51

mozartpc27 wrote:Thome to the Phils is a nice idea, but a non-starter. Stairs, limited as he was, played in the field in 2008 and 2009 on a few occasions (4 games in 2008, 15 games in 2009). In the NL, I'm not sure you can carry a player who truly can't play the field, and if Thome cannot, the Phils would be better off going in another direction.

Also, I am guessing that Thome, a regular for almost his entire career, needs to get regular ABs in order to be effective. Stairs was used to pinch hitting when he was brought here.


Disagree. We're talking about a post-waiver, pre-Sep. 1 acquisition, where you can carry him on the expanded roster for the stretch run and you can carry an extra bat in the playoffs because you should only need an 11 man staff. They don't need him to play the field.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby The B1G Piece » Tue May 31, 2011 11:30:28

Soren wrote:
The B1G Piece wrote:Reading some various Nationals forums, they really hate us (as in the fans).


2006-2008 Mets fans are to Phillies fans as Phillies fans are to Nats fans.

Good point.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby PA_Dan » Tue May 31, 2011 12:17:56

Supposedly chosen by Chooch and Cliff...

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 31, 2011 12:18:37

Zagurski up for Worley

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby PA_Dan » Tue May 31, 2011 12:20:14

More...

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Chooch's looks like a Mets jersey...
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby lethal » Tue May 31, 2011 12:21:57

I'm pretty sure Gload's roster spot is going to Victorino when he comes back. I can't see them sending Brown back down and JBerry and Francisco are the only right handed bats on the bench. The other option is Martinez and that leaves only Valdez to cover the 3 IF positions.

If you add Thome late in the season, right before Sept 1, as Trent suggests, maybe you can send a pitcher down for a week and recall them after Sept 1 since the postseason roster is going to have 1 fewer pitcher anyway. It'd be really awesome to have Thome as a LH DH for the WS if we get there though.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby joe table » Tue May 31, 2011 12:31:39

I think Mayberry goes down. Martinez, although he blows, gets saved because he can play up the middle...need another guy who can backup Polanco/Jimmy when Chase isn't available and Wilson is in the lineup. Well they don't "need" him but it makes some sense for insurance or if there is an in-game injury

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Trent Steele » Tue May 31, 2011 12:32:12

lethal wrote:I'm pretty sure Gload's roster spot is going to Victorino when he comes back. I can't see them sending Brown back down and JBerry and Francisco are the only right handed bats on the bench. The other option is Martinez and that leaves only Valdez to cover the 3 IF positions.

If you add Thome late in the season, right before Sept 1, as Trent suggests, maybe you can send a pitcher down for a week and recall them after Sept 1 since the postseason roster is going to have 1 fewer pitcher anyway. It'd be really awesome to have Thome as a LH DH for the WS if we get there though.


I kinda agree re Gload. Not sure what his role is. Don't think we need a 6th OF/backup 1B, particularly when Utley is hardly a lock for staying healthy and having just Valdez on the bench as a backup IF would be risky.

I wonder if the Worley demotion shows they intend to go with an extra position player and an 11 man staff for a while.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Polar Bear Phan » Tue May 31, 2011 12:33:14

The B1G Piece wrote:Reading some various Nationals forums, they really hate us (as in the fans).


Yeah, I went to Hagerstown on Saturday night and it was a bit weird to be surrounded by Nationals fans with so few Phillies fans. I've been to five Nationals/Phillies games at our summer home and Phillies fans made up the majority of fans in at least three (possibly four) of those games. The other probably had 35% or so Phillies fans.

On a different note, Bryce Harper looked really awful in those Hagerstown games (doubleheader of sorts). I don't know if he's injured or just having mechanical problems, but his lower body wasn't moving with his upper body during his swings; it was all arm movement.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Trent Steele » Tue May 31, 2011 12:39:06

KLAW Updated Top 25 (and taking some shots at Phils coaching):

18. Jarred Cosart, RHP, Philadelphia: Back to 93-98 mph again with a knockout upper-70s curveball. He had a brief stretch where he looked mortal as the Phillies had him experimenting with a spike curveball, but once he junked that he was back to his old dominant self. Previous position: No. 34

21. Jonathan Singleton, LF, Philadelphia: Two things to note about Singleton. One is that the Phillies also made some tweaks with him, getting him to hit off his toes more and in the process slicing more than 150 points off his OPS, but he undid the adjustment about 10 days ago and is hitting again. The other is that his season line hides a big platoon split: he's just 6-for-43 against lefties but hitting .313/.400/.438 against right-handers. He's got great balance, a very good feel for the strike zone, and forces the pitcher to come to him rather than expanding the zone. He's only 19 and didn't play a full year last year, so we need more reps versus left-handed pitchers before the platoon split is a real concern. Previous position: No. 27

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Barry Jive » Tue May 31, 2011 12:46:44

Trent Steele wrote:I wonder if the Worley demotion shows they intend to go with an extra position player and an 11 man staff for a while.


That's what I figured. Zagurski in the pen for a few days as your mopup guy, sent down when Vic comes back, then maybe DL Gload if you need another bullpen arm or ultimately when the next spot in the rotation comes up and you need Worley or a Kendrick replacement in the pen.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby swishnicholson » Tue May 31, 2011 12:48:22

jerseyhoya wrote:Zagurski up for Worley



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