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Postby Wolfgang622 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 00:38:40

Also: I've seen a perhaps embarrassing amount of older Phillies footage in my years, but this DVD really has a lot I haven't seen. The most remarkable: after the last out of Rick Wise's 1971 no hitter, before he even gets back to his own dugout, Richie Ashburn is down on the field and stops him for a surprisingly lengthy interview, in which he asks him about each hitter he faced in the ninth inning. I'd seen the last out lots and lots of times; that interview was entirely new to me. It's in a bonus feature.

Additionally, Ashburn also conducts an interview with Tommy Greene after his no hitter in the footage of that which is basically never shown. I remember tuning in just in time to catch the end of that game when I was a kid after my Pop-Pop called us to alert us to what was happening (that game was played mid-week in the afternoon, and my Dad and I had just come home from the camp where he worked and where I went), so I assume I have actually seen this interview before, but I had long since forgotten about it.

EDIT: Also, Scott Graham's call of Millwood's last out is included in this bonus feature, which I am not sure I'd ever heard before.
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Postby philliesphhan » Sat Sep 18, 2010 00:38:43

I kinda remember that DVD now. The final game of the 1950 season has the caption "1950 NLCS" which amused me.

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It had never occurred to me before, but both Greene's and Wise's no hitters came during two different (though each very brief) periods when the Phillies had the dark red/maroon uniforms, but wore gray on the road. So did Mulholland's for that matter though I think his was a home game.
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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Sep 18, 2010 00:52:50

Phillyfanatic wrote:Media: Charlie, if somebody had told you in March or April that with 14 games to play that Carlos Ruiz would be leading the team in hitting and batting .300 what would you say?

Uncle Chollie: "I think that's good hittin' Chooch! That's what I would say. I'd say, 'way to go Chooch!'"

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Incidentally, I have watched this clip a hundred times and I still can't figure out what the heck Chooch is saying here...


I'm pretty sure that most of the time nobody has any idea what Chooch is saying
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 00:55:36

philliesphhan wrote:I kinda remember that DVD now. The final game of the 1950 season has the caption "1950 NLCS" which amused me.

nerdy Phillie fan moment:
It had never occurred to me before, but both Greene's and Wise's no hitters came during two different (though each very brief) periods when the Phillies had the dark red/maroon uniforms, but wore gray on the road. So did Mulholland's for that matter though I think his was a home game.


Huh, you're right. Phils wore grey on the road with the maroon unis from 1970-1972, I think, and then 1989-1991.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Sep 18, 2010 00:57:06

17-4 since the Houston sweep

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Postby Wolfgang622 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 01:02:48

philliesphhan wrote:nerdy Phillie fan moment


You know what I did that was nerdy tonight? NFL Films is and always has been based in Cherry Hill, NJ, because Ed Sabol was from Philly, IIRC. Anyway, because of this, NFL Films has always had a Philly connection, which is why for years John Facenda was their voice, then Jeff Kaye (who did local voice over work for Channel 6 here for years), with Harry Kalas mixed in, and now Scott Graham does a lot of their voice over work.

Anyway, because of NFL Films' "special" relationship with Philadelphia, they did team "video yearbooks" before those really got done, by the Phillies or anybody else, for the Phillies, and I don't think they really did them for other teams. I have one of them - the 1980 one, narrated by John Facenda, comes with the 1980 Phillies World Series DVD set.

But clearly there were others, particularly from before 1980, from that era, and clips from them were used in this DVD I bought tonight. A little known fact about NFL Films is that you can purchase pretty much any video they've ever put together from them, no matter from how long ago, directly through their website - usually for a hefty price ($50, last time I checked). Anyway, I headed over there to see if any of those 1970s era John Facenda-narrated films were listed as available for purchase. No luck so far, and I imagine, unlike with their NFL videos, they might have some rights/licensing issues now. But boy would I love to get my hands on the 1977 Phillies highlights, for example.
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 02:00:34

Despite every better instinct I have, I want one of those "Saturday Night Specials" all-maroon jerseys from 1979 from Mitchell and Ness. I am wondering how much longer my willpower can hold out.
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Postby philliesphhan » Sat Sep 18, 2010 02:24:10

That's nuts that they even sell that. If you wear it twice, you'll have worn it more often than any Phillies player.
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 02:28:00

philliesphhan wrote:That's nuts that they even sell that. If you wear it twice, you'll have worn it more often than any Phillies player.


I forget where I read or heard this, but Bill Giles talked about those unis once and he mentioned that, though they were worn for a game only once, they were actually the batting practice uniforms for the team that season at least up until they wore them in the game, and perhaps all that year, and perhaps going back to previous years. He had gotten a lot of compliments on them, which is why they decided to try them out in a game. I'm just guessing here, but I bet it's possible that the pants, which really are what make them awful, were new for the game, whereas the jersey only had been used, and continued to be used, as the BP outfit.

Whatever, they did wear them more frequently than just the once, only not in-game.

Also, though I can get one on ebay for "only" $209, and the few they had at CBP had been discounted down to $200 - cheap by Mitchell and Ness's standards - the price tag means my will power will probably continue to hold.
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Postby Werthless » Sat Sep 18, 2010 08:13:34

Phillyfanatic wrote:The other beauty about Chooch is he seemingly has no ego or at least has the ability to put the team before whatever ego he has.

He doesn't seem to mind hitting eighth even though it could be argued that he has been one of our best hitters this year. He'll sit down there in the eighth spot and get a big hit to get an RBI in a key situation or sit there and take pitches with nobody on base trying to walk and get the pitcher out of the way to turn over the lineup.

He may not speak good English, but he's as intelligent a baseball player as there is...he's not prone to werthless brainfarts if you know what I mean...

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Postby 1 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 15:28:21

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Postby smitty » Sat Sep 18, 2010 15:33:13

Teams lie, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for bad. They do it to get an advantage while they look at the trade market or just because they can

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Postby 1 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 15:35:59



i was looking at the last few weeks of the season. fun to relive that and actually remember some of the places i was when those games were going on (other than the home games, of which i attended most)
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Postby Phillyfanatic » Sat Sep 18, 2010 22:08:28

God, I hope we get a Phillies/Rangers World Series this year...
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Postby meatball » Sat Sep 18, 2010 22:11:24



From the game recap:

After making 10 errors in a two-game span, the skidding New York Mets figured they had to regroup.

So they held a team meeting Tuesday afternoon before playing Washington, determined to turn themselves around in time to hold off second-place Philadelphia in the NL East.

It didn't help.


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Postby Wolfgang622 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:09:55

Can someone post one of those "NL East teams/games over .500" charts again? I'll bet its a sight to behold right about now.
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Postby 21McBride » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:14:57

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edit: not the nl east but something
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Postby FTN » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:17:54

interesting article about chole's sherpa

http://www.csnphilly.com/09/19/10/bSali ... feedID=704

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Postby cshort » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:29:47

Seems we may be mistaken about the Phils' 33% ownership of CSN. Philly.com article says they sold their holding back to Comcast a few years ago. Six years remain on the 15 year deal they signed.
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:42:39

In 2004, the Phillies were eighth in baseball in runs scored, just as they are in 2010. The difference: the Phillies were one of 14 teams with 800 or more runs scored that season, almost half of baseball. The Red Sox topped the list with 975; the Phils scored 840.

This year, only 4 teams are on a current pace to score 800 runs this season, and perhaps 3 more ultimately will. Phillies would have to average over 7 runs a game between now and the end of the season, so they ain't getting there.

Meanwhile, the Phillies are on a pace to allow 652 runs, which would be their fewest allowed in a full season (i.e., excluding strike-shortened 1994) since 1983 (635). Yes, 652 runs would be fewer than they allowed in 1995, when only 144 games were played owing to the strike.

In doing this, I noticed the least the Phillies ever allowed over a 162 game season was 557 - 557! - in 1976. No wonder that team was so cotdamn good.
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