Trent Steele wrote:

SK790 wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:

joe table wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:Listening to Chris Russo on sirius today, he was going on and on about how you really don't want to face the Phillies in the first round of the playoffs. I'm not commenting on the brillian analysis. Rather, I want to highlight the awesomeness of not being a mere playoff team, but being the playoff team the other playoff teams don't want to face. Also, the assumption Russo was making was that the Phillies would finish with the best record in the NL and thus be the first seed.

I realize the Phillies are going to be really tough in a 5 game series. Russo pointed out that the if the Phillies had the best NL record, they'd get to choose whether they'd get a day off between game 1 and game 2, and assuming they took the day off, that gave them even a greater advantage. It really is a change getting a ton of respect in the national media from a mere few years ago.

His old partner Francesa was absolutely gushing today about what a great WS matchup Yankees/Phillies would be. Loves the Phillies team. But who doesn't.

*Thinks about bumping threads but won't*

Once they made the Oswalt trade, I've been nothing but sunshine and candy, baby.

Only problem is you went from "Sell everyone, this team sucks", to "no way we don't win the World Series". I mean, Oswalt was a SAFECO deal, but to say he's that big of a difference maker is the definition of hyperbole.

The Phillies are awesome right now and I like our chances, but there is a chance we don't win the WS.

slashbuzzkill

Oh, so I have the be rational now? This the internets.

Yes. These internets are serious business.

philliesphhan wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:I am presuming that the Phillies are $#@! awesome and are stone cold killers. I have nearly four seasons worth of data backing me up.

This man speaks the truth

I plan to tell my grandkids how $#@! spectacular these teams were and how they oozed confidence, not how I spent my time worried they might blow a lead in the division.

I'm with you guys.

Indeed, the internets are serious business.

Anyway, I wish to contesr jh's notion that there are only two reasons to show a little humility in these situations. First of all, showing a little humility helps you not to come off as an arrogant creep. Imagine this imperfect analogy: you and five other people are interviewed for a job, one right after another. Improbably, you then all get together for a drink afterwards. Now, you might know that you nailed the interview, and know you are the most qualified guy for the job among them. But you aren't going to win many friends at the table if you start telling everyone else that you've locked up the job, they should all go check the classifieds because they're all still looking for work, etc. This is imperfect as analogy because obviously everyone here is a Phils fan, so we're not acting as if our shit don't stink to or in front of Braves fans, Giants fans, etc., but if you want to know why I err on the side of humility, this is a big part of the reason: I don't want to come across as an ass.

But there is yet another reason: if I were manager, and I came into the locker room and heard the players making their World Series plans, you better believe I would call a team meeting and air them out a little bit, telling them to concentrate on the task at hand. As a fan, I see no reason to take an attitude I wouldn't accept from the players.

I'm all for enjoying your team and way you want. If someone wants to talk (pretty well deserved) dookie on the internets I'm all for it.

After living through 1964, I never get too confident myself. But i try to enjoy my team's historically rare success as much as I can.

And I don't believe in internet jinxes or double reverse jinxes or that stuff.

Phan In Phlorida wrote:The BSG servers are powered by hyperbole. Hyperbole and entendres.

I first read that as entrails and got worried.

smitty wrote:I'm all for enjoying your team and way you want. If someone wants to talk (pretty well deserved) dookie on the internets I'm all for it.

After living through 1964, I never get too confident myself. But i try to enjoy my team's historically rare success as much as I can.

And I don't believe in internet jinxes or double reverse jinxes or that stuff.

I mean, I should hasten to add (because I don't mean to imply) that I don't think anyone here is an arrogant jerk or anything. Baseball and message boards are fantasies, to some degree, where you get to do things you don't do in "outside" life, and that's fine, I understand why people do it. I just can't bring myself to do it, and it makes me nervous to watch other people do it who are on my side. We on BSG are sort of like a big family. In the same way if I were out with my real family and one of them started getting a little too cocky I might take them aside and say, "Hey, be careful, don't cultivate the hate!", I am tempted, because of my personality, to do the same thing here. I have trained myself, and been trained, to avoid arrogance at all costs. Can't overcome my own programming, and it's the thing most likely to draw a "Hold on, wait a minute" from me in others.

mozartpc27 wrote:

smitty wrote:I'm all for enjoying your team and way you want. If someone wants to talk (pretty well deserved) dookie on the internets I'm all for it.

After living through 1964, I never get too confident myself. But i try to enjoy my team's historically rare success as much as I can.

And I don't believe in internet jinxes or double reverse jinxes or that stuff.

I mean, I should hasten to add (because I don't mean to imply) that I don't think anyone here is an arrogant jerk or anything. Baseball and message boards are fantasies, to some degree, where you get to do things you don't do in "outside" life, and that's fine, I understand why people do it. I just can't bring myself to do it, and it makes me nervous to watch other people do it who are on my side. We on BSG are sort of like a big family. In the same way if I were out with my real family and one of them started getting a little too $#@! I might take them aside and say, "Hey, be careful, don't cultivate the hate!", I am tempted, because of my personality, to do the same thing here. I have trained myself, and been trained, to avoid arrogance at all costs. Can't overcome my own programming, and it's the thing most likely to draw a "Hold on, wait a minute" from me in others.

I can dig that too my man.

Since it was my post that started this conversation, I was only pumped by the fact that the it's a sign of success that the national sports media see the Phillies as the team to beat in the national league and I enjoyed it.

Cool Standings has us up to 98% for playoffs

49 out of 50 chance to make the playoffs

That's not bad

We're 26 games over .500. The fact that 95 wins is 8-6 away is insane.

Barry Jive wrote:

philliesphhan wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:I am presuming that the Phillies are $#@! awesome and are stone cold killers. I have nearly four seasons worth of data backing me up.

This man speaks the truth

I plan to tell my grandkids how $#@! spectacular these teams were and how they oozed confidence, not how I spent my time worried they might blow a lead in the division.

I'm with you guys.

are your grandkids sitting there with you right now?

all right then


and

TenuredVulture wrote:Since it was my post that started this conversation, I was only pumped by the fact that the it's a sign of success that the national sports media see the Phillies as the team to beat in the national league and I enjoyed it.

Have you never swung your dick before?

:rollseyes:

mozartpc27 wrote:Indeed, the internets are serious business.

Anyway, I wish to contesr jh's notion that there are only two reasons to show a little humility in these situations. First of all, showing a little humility helps you not to come off as an arrogant creep. Imagine this imperfect analogy: you and five other people are interviewed for a job, one right after another. Improbably, you then all get together for a drink afterwards. Now, you might know that you nailed the interview, and know you are the most qualified guy for the job among them. But you aren't going to win many friends at the table if you start telling everyone else that you've locked up the job, they should all go check the classifieds because they're all still looking for work, etc. This is imperfect as analogy because obviously everyone here is a Phils fan, so we're not acting as if our $#@! don't stink to or in front of Braves fans, Giants fans, etc., but if you want to know why I err on the side of humility, this is a big part of the reason: I don't want to come across as an ass.

But there is yet another reason: if I were manager, and I came into the locker room and heard the players making their World Series plans, you better believe I would call a team meeting and air them out a little bit, telling them to concentrate on the task at hand. As a fan, I see no reason to take an attitude I wouldn't accept from the players.

This is where your analogy goes to die. We ARE NOT the players on the team. We have zero effect on the outcomes of every game. Zero. Getting all worried they might blow a lead when there is NOTHING you can do to prevent it is the worst mentality in the world to have in my opinion.
Do I get worried when runners on the other team get on base during a game, especially late in the game? Of course.
Do I start saying to myself? "Oh no! If only I hadn't said a statistically likely outcome would occur tonight! This is all my fault."

Media: Charlie, if somebody had told you in March or April that with 14 games to play that Carlos Ruiz would be leading the team in hitting and batting .300 what would you say?

Uncle Chollie: "I think that's good hittin' Chooch! That's what I would say. I'd say, 'way to go Chooch!'"


Incidentally, I have watched this clip a hundred times and I still can't figure out what the heck Chooch is saying here...

ahhhh that's rich

Tied with Pujols in 4th in the NL in OBP

(not enough plate appearances to qualify, but whatever)

I purchased the "Phillies Memories" DVD tonight at CBP. Unlike most of the Phillies DVDs, which are in-house productions, this is actually a production of MLB. It's a review of the history of the team, with a heavy emphasis on the 2003-2008 period. Because it's a MLB production, though, it has a lot of video I'd never seen before - particularly from the 1974-1983 - and alternate calls that you don't always hear, like Franzke's call of the last pitch of the 2007 season. Also, I am pretty sure it's the last of these sorts of videos that Harry the K ever narrated for the Phillies. Well worth the $20.

Anyway, this DVD reminded me, in case I forget:

2007

mozartpc27 wrote:I purchased the "Phillies Memories" DVD tonight at CBP. Unlike most of the Phillies DVDs, which are in-house productions, this is actually a production of MLB. It's a review of the history of the team, with a heavy emphasis on the 2003-2008 period. Because it's a MLB production, though, it has a lot of video I'd never seen before - particularly from the 1974-1983 - and alternate calls that you don't always hear, like Franzke's call of the last pitch of the 2007 season. Also, I am pretty sure it's the last of these sorts of videos that Harry the K ever narrated for the Phillies. Well worth the $20.

Anyway, this DVD reminded me, in case I forget:

2007

Can't remember if I've seen that or not. Also, Franzke's call on break at work is how I experienced the 2007 clincher. Good times.

Confusingly, there are two DVDs with similar titles:

Phillies Memories: The Greatest Moments in Philadelphia Phillies History

Philadelphia Phillies Memories

You got the second one right?

philliesphhan wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:I purchased the "Phillies Memories" DVD tonight at CBP. Unlike most of the Phillies DVDs, which are in-house productions, this is actually a production of MLB. It's a review of the history of the team, with a heavy emphasis on the 2003-2008 period. Because it's a MLB production, though, it has a lot of video I'd never seen before - particularly from the 1974-1983 - and alternate calls that you don't always hear, like Franzke's call of the last pitch of the 2007 season. Also, I am pretty sure it's the last of these sorts of videos that Harry the K ever narrated for the Phillies. Well worth the $20.

Anyway, this DVD reminded me, in case I forget:

2007

Can't remember if I've seen that or not. Also, Franzke's call on break at work is how I experienced the 2007 clincher. Good times.

Confusingly, there are two DVDs with similar titles:

Phillies Memories: The Greatest Moments in Philadelphia Phillies History

Philadelphia Phillies Memories

You got the second one right?

No, I got the first one... the second one is only available from a non-Amazon seller. I suspect it is really the same as the DVD I just got, just with some weird prototype cover or something.

The last outs feature of this DVD: choice. The longer-look-than-you-usually-get at the end of the 1993 NLCS and all those sad Braves.... ahhhhhhhh.... endorphins.... yesssssssss.......

Also: quite noticable how much weight Chuck has lost since 2008.