Random baseball thoughts

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:26:34

BigEd76 wrote:Former Indian/Met/Rockie reliever Jerry Dipoto is expected to be named the new GM of the Nats

I used to live across the street from him in Colorado. Very nice guy.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:43:17

uncle milt wrote:natinals are selling lower level tickets to friday's game for $1 to celebrate strasburg signing.

Shit, I'm tempted to go.

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:44:40

mozartpc27 wrote:
TomatoPie wrote:
The inconsistent logic Moyer offered did not surprise the reporters who cover him regularly. A few examples of Jamie's head-scratchers: After Atlanta second baseman Kelly Johnson homered on Moyer's first pitch of an April 8 home game, the lefty grumbled that taking the initial pitch of a ball game should be a "professional courtesy" on the part of the hitter. Huh? The batter should concede strike one?

Was Moyer doing a Bob Newhart?

Wow. So Moyer's really been a douchebag this whole time, and up til now I just didn't see it?

To be fair to Moyer, it was "professional courtesy" when he broke into the pro ranks...

The quote was from April, so it wasn't connected with the move to the pen. Tone often doesn't come through in print, so it might have been facetious (TP's "deadpan" allusion), or snarky if it was in reply to a stupid question.

by **Trent Steele** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 13:20:39

Cliff Lee is 33rd in MLB history in winning percentage at .6418.

by **philliesphhan** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 13:31:43

GM-Carson wrote:Garret Anderson had 2 hits last night to bump his hit total to 100 on the season, his 15th straight season of 100+ hits.

Seems like an odd number for a benchmark

by **BigEd76** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 17:01:19

oh that tricky Joe Maddon, dying his hair black for good luck

and I missed this with his first start last week, but Angels pitcher Trevor Bell is the grandson of Bozo the Clown

by **GM-Carson** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 09:33:08

Phillies have the 3rd best run differential in baseball (+91), behind on the Yankees (+107) and Dodgers (+119).

by **GM-Carson** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 09:35:26

The Blue Jays have 55 wins, but only 18 saves...strange.

by **Bakestar** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:17:17

Phillies now one game ahead of Dodgers in the loss column.

by **BigEd76** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:39:05

BigEd76 wrote:Former Indian/Met/Rockie reliever Jerry Dipoto is expected to be named the new GM of the Nats

....but isn't. Rizzo gets it.

by **FTN** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 14:44:21

If Ted Williams hadn't essentially lost almost 5 seasons because of the two wars, would he have been the greatest player in history?

He missed his age 24, 25 and 26 seasons, then almost all of his age 33 season, and 3/4 of his age 34 season.

If you just assume he lost on average 30 HR in his 24-26 seasons, and then maybe 35 combined in '52-53, that's another 125, which would give him right around 650. And thats probably a low end estimate, as he hit 37 and 36 the two years before the war, and then 38 in his first year back at age 27.

He could have realistically hit close to 700 HR. He had 2654 hits, but would have easily gone past 3,000. Give him 180 hits per from '43-45, then another 160 in 52 and say another 120 in '53. That would be close to 3,500 hits.

Amazing stuff really.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 14:47:07

FTN wrote:If Ted Williams hadn't essentially lost almost 5 seasons because of the two wars, would he have been the greatest player in history?

He missed his age 24, 25 and 26 seasons, then almost all of his age 33 season, and 3/4 of his age 34 season.

If you just assume he lost on average 30 HR in his 24-26 seasons, and then maybe 35 combined in '52-53, that's another 125, which would give him right around 650. And thats probably a low end estimate, as he hit 37 and 36 the two years before the war, and then 38 in his first year back at age 27.

He could have realistically hit close to 700 HR. He had 2654 hits, but would have easily gone past 3,000. Give him 180 hits per from '43-45, then another 160 in 52 and say another 120 in '53. That would be close to 3,500 hits.

Amazing stuff really.

Yeah, Bill James has said it before and it's true: Ted Williams, not Babe Ruth, is the greatest hitter who ever lived.

by **Woody** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 15:01:09

FTN wrote:If Ted Williams hadn't essentially lost almost 5 seasons because of the two wars, would he have been the greatest player in history?

He missed his age 24, 25 and 26 seasons, then almost all of his age 33 season, and 3/4 of his age 34 season.

If you just assume he lost on average 30 HR in his 24-26 seasons, and then maybe 35 combined in '52-53, that's another 125, which would give him right around 650. And thats probably a low end estimate, as he hit 37 and 36 the two years before the war, and then 38 in his first year back at age 27.

He could have realistically hit close to 700 HR. He had 2654 hits, but would have easily gone past 3,000. Give him 180 hits per from '43-45, then another 160 in 52 and say another 120 in '53. That would be close to 3,500 hits.

Amazing stuff really.

did you watch the Ted Williams HBO documentary recently? I was thinking the same things when I watched it yesterday. I never knew he missed five whole seasons

by **Bakestar** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 15:08:07

Woody wrote:
FTN wrote:If Ted Williams hadn't essentially lost almost 5 seasons because of the two wars, would he have been the greatest player in history?

He missed his age 24, 25 and 26 seasons, then almost all of his age 33 season, and 3/4 of his age 34 season.

If you just assume he lost on average 30 HR in his 24-26 seasons, and then maybe 35 combined in '52-53, that's another 125, which would give him right around 650. And thats probably a low end estimate, as he hit 37 and 36 the two years before the war, and then 38 in his first year back at age 27.

He could have realistically hit close to 700 HR. He had 2654 hits, but would have easily gone past 3,000. Give him 180 hits per from '43-45, then another 160 in 52 and say another 120 in '53. That would be close to 3,500 hits.

Amazing stuff really.

did you watch the Ted Williams HBO documentary recently? I was thinking the same things when I watched it yesterday. I never knew he missed five whole seasons

I watched it too, it was good. I thought he saw combat in WWII, but it turns out he "only" flew missions in Korea.

by **FTN** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 15:19:33

Woody wrote:
FTN wrote:If Ted Williams hadn't essentially lost almost 5 seasons because of the two wars, would he have been the greatest player in history?

He missed his age 24, 25 and 26 seasons, then almost all of his age 33 season, and 3/4 of his age 34 season.

If you just assume he lost on average 30 HR in his 24-26 seasons, and then maybe 35 combined in '52-53, that's another 125, which would give him right around 650. And thats probably a low end estimate, as he hit 37 and 36 the two years before the war, and then 38 in his first year back at age 27.

He could have realistically hit close to 700 HR. He had 2654 hits, but would have easily gone past 3,000. Give him 180 hits per from '43-45, then another 160 in 52 and say another 120 in '53. That would be close to 3,500 hits.

Amazing stuff really.

did you watch the Ted Williams HBO documentary recently? I was thinking the same things when I watched it yesterday. I never knew he missed five whole seasons

Yeah, pretty remarkable stuff.

by **FTN** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 15:31:03

I think you'd have to consider his 1946 season as one of the best baseball seasons in history. His OPS+ of 215 was only 23rd all time, but he missed the 3 previous seasons, had basically just gotten back from his military service, hadn't picked up a bat since he left for duty, and then he wins the Triple Crown.

Its tough to even wrap your brain around that.

by **VFB** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 15:31:15

conlin crowns vic

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phi ... orino.html

by **Woody** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 15:37:56

The dynamo who is this man's Phillies MVP so far this season had a big stage and gave a performance to match

by **CFP** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 16:55:26

VFB wrote:conlin crowns vic

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phi ... orino.html

Cuban Missile Crisis/Kennedy/defensive like Kim Jong Il's North Korean contingent/Swine flu reference? I'm not reading it, just guessing at what he says in there.

by **Werthless** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 21:37:16

Going into tonight's game, these are 2 players' splits this year against LHP:

Player A: .182/.280/.295 for an OPS of .575.
Player B: .194/.277/.312 for an OPS of .589.

So, a team that is deciding between player A and player B is basically indifferent between the two, based on their performance this year.

The players:

Eric Bruntlett and Ryan Howard

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