Manny will be a Phillies (version 3.11)

by **JFLNYC** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 00:03:10

Don't forget Halladay. He was lifted after pitching only 8 innings last night.

by **Stay_Disappointed** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 00:07:02

JFLNYC wrote:Don't forget Halladay. He was lifted after pitching only 8 innings last night.

Gillick may have to pull an all-nighter

by **Bucky** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 00:07:57

It's not like the Marlins have a history of selling the farm to win a World Series and then sucking the next few years or anything like that though

by **dajafi** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 00:08:44

JFLNYC wrote:Sox did great under really tough circumstances. They actually got some real value back. Can you imagine if it were the Phillies and they had to trade a superstar? Oh, wait. . . We don't have to imagine. We've got Rolen and Schilling as examples.

They didn't "have" to trade Manny; if a deal hadn't been there, I'm sure they would have held on.

Of course, the Phils didn't "have" to trade Schilling; he had another year on his deal, and even Wade admitted it was a mistake. Rolen was just a straight fuckup, though.

by **Bucky** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 00:08:46

HOLY CRAP I THINK MANNY'S TRYING TO SEND ME A MESSAGE :!:

by **wehatetolose42** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 00:11:42

manny said he doesn't see the deal happening.

by **Stay_Disappointed** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 00:14:02

wehatetolose42 wrote:manny said he doesn't see the deal happening.

I don't either. Florida doesn't deserve Manny

by **LongDrive** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 07:25:01

Baseball Prospectus' Kevin Goldstein believes the Pirates will end up with Stanton, Tucker, and Hermida.

by **FTN** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 09:09:35

Stark with a new pack of lies

Here's what I know about the status of this deal, as of this morning:

• An official of one of these three teams placed the odds of this getting done today at "50-50."

• Multiple sources have said that outfield prospect Mike Stanton is not in this trade, although Boston asked for him and Pittsburgh has been insisting on a prospect of his caliber, in addition to Jeremy Hermida and other prospects.

• Despite reports that left-handed reliever John Grabow would wind up in Boston, indications are that he would actually go to the Marlins if this trade gets done.

• The status of Marlins pitcher Ryan Tucker (recently sent back to the minor leagues to be converted to the bullpen) remains uncertain. Tucker, according to a baseball man who has spoken to the teams involved, is still a name that's "in play."

by **my cousin mose** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 09:19:02

FTN wrote:Stark with a new pack of lies

this made me laugh :lol:

by **Woody** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 09:35:51

So wait Boston is getting Jason Bay, Stanton, Josh Grabow, Clemente and Hines Ward?

by **my cousin mose** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 09:38:51

Woody wrote:So wait Boston is getting Jason Bay, Stanton, Josh Grabow, Clemente and Hines Ward?

kordell stewart as a ptbnl

by **FTN** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:17:17

10:12am: Rosenthal says the three teams have a framework for the major players, but no agreement on the prospects. The Bucs' return from the Red Sox is the holdup. Rosenthal says Tucker and Stanton will stay put, by the way.

:?:

by **meatball** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:34:57

FTN wrote:
10:12am: Rosenthal says the three teams have a framework for the major players, but no agreement on the prospects. The Bucs' return from the Red Sox is the holdup. Rosenthal says Tucker and Stanton will stay put, by the way.

:?:

At this point, I'd wish they'd just stfu and not say anything 'til a deal's done. So many baseball men who know a guy who knows a guy saying so many contradictory things.

by **Woody** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:36:29

Manny will be new head of Fannie Mae

by **FTN** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:37:46

Manny Mae and Manny Mack

by **scottdg** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:01:47

I haven't seen this in any of the dozen or so trade deadline or Manny threads. My brother just sent me this from baseball prospectus. But when I click on the link it just goes to the Goldstein report which mentions nothing about the Phillies.

The Red Sox are apparently doing everything they can to ditch Manny Ramirez by this afternoon's non-waiver trading deadline. It's looking likely that he'll head to the Marlins. Boston would end up with reliever John Grabow and coveted slugger Jason Bay from Pittsburgh and the Pirates would get Marlins right fielder Jeremy Hermida, pitcher Ryan Tucker, and low-minors slugger Mike Stanton from Florida. Still, though, the Phillies and Dodgers are supposedly still trying to get Ramirez with the Phillies reportedly offering Brett Myers, Jason Werth, and cash to get the guy who has been pals with Phillies manager Charlie Manuel since they both worked in Cleveland together. L.A. would supposedly include Matt Kemp in the deal. (Baseball Prospectus)

by **21McBride** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:02:53

Myers in Boston seems like a bad thing.

by **phillychuck** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:05:22

Myers and Werth to the Dodgers for Kemp. I like that.

by **CalvinBall** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:08:47

phillychuck wrote:Myers and Werth to the Dodgers for Kemp. I like that.

That would be awesome.

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