slugsrbad wrote:I'm fine with you being wrong too... but I want you to have some data to help assuage your fears. There hasn't been much tightening.. and while PA isn't a sure thing there are a lot of good signs in "backup" states like Arizona, Georgia, Texas, NE-2, etc. *fingers crossed*

I was reading a few articles that talked about how Dems have been overperforming the polls in the southwest and underperforming their polls in the midwest. If this is the case, I feel pretty good, or as good as I can feel given the stakes and Trump's ability to repeatedly escape the axe.

AZ is fairly close with Biden leading. If the polls are underestimating his strength, he should easily win AZ and NV. And the midwest is polling really well for Biden, well enough that it could probably withstand a 4-5 point swing towards Trump. FL and NC have also underperformed polling though, so we shouldn't count on either of those places given how close they are.

midwest being the hottest COVID spot in the country now can't help Trump

stevemc wrote:midwest being the hottest COVID spot in the country now can't help Trump

especially since his base hasn't voted yet.

I know it's not likely and I shouldn't get greedy, but I REALLY want Texas. It's been red for so long that a win for dems there could energize voters even beyond what we're seeing this year. JH says he doesn't vote in DC because there's really no point. There are a lot of dem-leaning people in Texas who might feel the same way. But a win changes all of that. The glass ceiling is shattered.

slugsrbad wrote:Jeff Flake cut a video stating he voted for Biden/Harris... showing more courage than other non-Trumpers like Hogan who voted for Reagan.

FWIW Jeff Flake deciding not to show much courage until he was out of the Senate is what helped us get stuck with Kavanaugh and ACB.

stevemc wrote:midwest being the hottest COVID spot in the country now can't help Trump

You would think but so many think the virus is “not Trump’s fault” and “he’s done as much as he could do.”

JFLNYC wrote:

stevemc wrote:midwest being the hottest COVID spot in the country now can't help Trump

You would think but so many think the virus is “not Trump’s fault” and “he’s done as much as he could do.”

Biden should stop with the late to the game on the boarder thing. He literally called him a racist for an advisory based proper decision. And he still keeps bringing it up. I do not get that. He is basically just saying "you suck but I would have even worse" each time.

JFLNYC wrote:

stevemc wrote:midwest being the hottest COVID spot in the country now can't help Trump

You would think but so many think the virus is “not Trump’s fault” and “he’s done as much as he could do.”

Well if everyone that doesn’t support you voted by mail, but you discouraged your own people from doing that, then you’re going to be at a disadvantage on Election Day if people aren’t feeling up to hitting the polls.

That said, I have no clue if vote by mail is big in the Midwest or not

WilliamC wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

stevemc wrote:midwest being the hottest COVID spot in the country now can't help Trump

You would think but so many think the virus is “not Trump’s fault” and “he’s done as much as he could do.”

Biden should stop with the late to the game on the boarder thing. He literally called him a racist for an advisory based proper decision. And he still keeps bringing it up. I do not get that. He is basically just saying "you suck but I would have even worse" each time.

If you're referring to banning travel to China, what relevance does that when we're closing in 9 million COVID-19 positives and 231,000 deaths? Biden has actually come up with a plan to deal with the virus and Trump's plan is wait for a vaccine.

The Anonymous Op-Ed person from yesteryear is apparently revealing themselves today... prepare for the yawning and the disowning.

WilliamC wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

stevemc wrote:midwest being the hottest COVID spot in the country now can't help Trump

You would think but so many think the virus is “not Trump’s fault” and “he’s done as much as he could do.”

Biden should stop with the late to the game on the boarder thing. He literally called him a racist for an advisory based proper decision. And he still keeps bringing it up. I do not get that. He is basically just saying "you suck but I would have even worse" each time.

I haven't seen anything from the stump, but at the final debate Joe Biden said that Trump is a xenophobe but not because of the border/restricting access. And mentioned that Trump closed borders after 40+ countries had already while pulling out any researchers/eyes in Wuhan and just trusting Xi's word.

The B1G Piece wrote:

WilliamC wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

stevemc wrote:midwest being the hottest COVID spot in the country now can't help Trump

You would think but so many think the virus is “not Trump’s fault” and “he’s done as much as he could do.”

Biden should stop with the late to the game on the boarder thing. He literally called him a racist for an advisory based proper decision. And he still keeps bringing it up. I do not get that. He is basically just saying "you suck but I would have even worse" each time.

If you're referring to banning travel to China, what relevance does that when we're closing in 9 million COVID-19 positives and 231,000 deaths? Biden has actually come up with a plan to deal with the virus and Trump's plan is wait for a vaccine.

This is also very true. Even if Biden is dead wrong like WillyC is saying, it still pales in comparison to how badly President Trump has mangled COVID response.

slugsrbad wrote:The Anonymous Op-Ed person from yesteryear is apparently revealing themselves today... prepare for the yawning and the disowning.

I thought Pence seemed fairly likely, but there’s no way he’d reveal himself before this election. Are there any candidates where it would actually be juicy? I feel like so many people working high up in the administration have cut ties with it and trashed it/been trashed by it that it’s kind of old hat at this point.

slugsrbad wrote:The Anonymous Op-Ed person from yesteryear is apparently revealing themselves today... prepare for the yawning and the disowning.

Prepare to be underwhelmed.

https://twitter.com/benyt/status/1321529948377649153

it's frustrating to me that Trump didn't actually close travel from China and Biden never pointed it out. there were tons of loopholes including travel from HK being totally unrestricted. American nationals returning from China weren't tested and tracked at all upon return; some 30k+ people came from China after measures were announced. it seemed like a good opportunity to point out that Trump traffics in xenophobia without even bothering to follow up on the practical considerations

momadance wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:The Anonymous Op-Ed person from yesteryear is apparently revealing themselves today... prepare for the yawning and the disowning.

Prepare to be underwhelmed.

https://twitter.com/benyt/status/1321529948377649153

Miles Taylor former DHS Chief of Staff. I think he's been an out Trump critic recently so it is pretty underwhelming.

Edit: Mis-titled him.

slugsrbad wrote:

momadance wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:The Anonymous Op-Ed person from yesteryear is apparently revealing themselves today... prepare for the yawning and the disowning.

Prepare to be underwhelmed.

https://twitter.com/benyt/status/1321529948377649153

Miles Taylor former DHS Chief of Staff. I think he's been an out Trump critic recently so it is pretty underwhelming.

Edit: Mis-titled him.

LOL

Obama joining Biden in Michigan on Saturday.

I wonder if anyone left stranded in Nebraska yesterday changed their vote. Probably not I guess.

TenuredVulture wrote:I wonder if anyone left stranded in Nebraska yesterday changed their vote. Probably not I guess.

Probably strengthened their attachment to him. I MUST love Trump if I'm willing to nearly freeze to death to see his rally.

The alternative would lead to so much cognitive dissonance that they might explode.