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JUburton wrote:if you have a mail in ballot you can still go on election day. in 2016 my montco polling place had maybe 30 people in line near opening. if you're outside and standing 6ft apart its not really going to be too risky to vote in person and there will be so many fewer people due to mail-ins. if i was in a suburb i'd probably vote in person but i would bet my polling place is going to be nuts in CC philly.

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CalvinBall wrote:

JUburton wrote:if you have a mail in ballot you can still go on election day. in 2016 my montco polling place had maybe 30 people in line near opening. if you're outside and standing 6ft apart its not really going to be too risky to vote in person and there will be so many fewer people due to mail-ins. if i was in a suburb i'd probably vote in person but i would bet my polling place is going to be nuts in CC philly.

this is not entirely true.

if you requested one and do not have your mail in ballot, you will be made to vote by provisional ballot. which could be open to even more challenges if it is a tight race.

if you bring it to the polling place they should be able to spoil it though. you need the the ballot and envelopes.

EDIT: I am actually not 100 percent sure on that last part. i was under the impression you could not spoil your mail in according to the new rules. the inquirer guide to voting says you can. other news stories say you cannot.

slugsrbad wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:POLITICO
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Shocker, Romney is an empty suit.

CalvinBall wrote:Blame the republican state Legislature. They refuse to vote on legislation that would allow counties to start counting mail in ballots before election day. The state and plenty of counties have asked for relief there.

They did have one bill that allowed for 3 days of what is called pre-canvassing. However, that bill made drop boxes illegal and allowed for people from other counties to work polls across the state. It's one of their big dreams to flood polls I. Philadelphia with people as some sort of intimidation tactic.

The Sarge wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:Blame the republican state Legislature. They refuse to vote on legislation that would allow counties to start counting mail in ballots before election day. The state and plenty of counties have asked for relief there.

They did have one bill that allowed for 3 days of what is called pre-canvassing. However, that bill made drop boxes illegal and allowed for people from other counties to work polls across the state. It's one of their big dreams to flood polls I. Philadelphia with people as some sort of intimidation tactic.

What is the point of not letting them count the votes before election day? I understand not putting the results out before election day, but to not start the count is crazy to me.

JUburton wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:POLITICO
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BREAKING: Romney sides with McConnell on SCOTUS, giving Trump all the votes he needs to fill RBG's seat

Shocker, Romney is an empty suit.

dude is obviously going to shoot his shot on getting roe overturned.

slugsrbad wrote:the other huge problem is the demographics of the Senate. It is well shifted in the Republican's favor and getting a majority and maintaining it through presidential elections will be near impossible.

lethal wrote:

JUburton wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:POLITICO
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BREAKING: Romney sides with McConnell on SCOTUS, giving Trump all the votes he needs to fill RBG's seat

Shocker, Romney is an empty suit.

dude is obviously going to shoot his shot on getting roe overturned.

Romney hates Trump personally, but he probably hates abortion and affirmative action more. Maybe he'd vote to keep Obamacare becasue its based on his own ideas. I never had much hope that he'd not side with McConnell on this.

Personally, Supreme Court justices was my number one issue in 2016 (you can tie all sorts of things into a court majority, health care, voting rights, affitmative action, abortion, political contributions/dark money, immigration, criminal justice reform, gun control, antitrust and monopolies) and I didn't think Hillary emphasized it enough. Maybe Clinton herself didn't garner sufficient enthusiasm from some sectors who may have decided that if not Sanders, then there was no difference between Trump and Clinton, but getting them to understand that a favorable court composition could get them progressive friendly decisions for the next 30 years (Thomas has been on the Court for 29 years).

I wonder how long Mitch would've been able to keep any seats open or who Clinton would've nominated that could get 50 votes (and you assume Sessions is still in the Senate under that scenario, so no Jones).

Also, if Turmp fills this seat, he can save himself from criminal prosecution and releasing his financial documents/tax returns, so he has personal incentive to fill this before he's out of office.

Just a disaster all around that's going to have repercussions for half a century or at least the entire rest of my lifetime.

The next President probably gets Breyer's replacement (hopefully certainly if Biden wins and Ds control the Senate). Thomas and Alito are the next oldest, but they may be able to go another 10-15 years. Its going to be 6-3, maybe even 7-2 for a very, very long time.

stevemc wrote:And it could be 7-6 liberal majority in less than a year

06hawkalum wrote:Mitch doesn't care because he knows he will be dead by the time #$!&@ hits the fan.