The B1G Piece wrote:FWIW, our PA republican / fence voters are equally perturbed at Wolf and Trump. Wolf for what they feel is excessive and Trump for allowing it happen. I know there is a Trump appointed judge saying some things are unconstitutional, but Trump isn't getting a pass (nor does he deserve one). Hopefully I am right.

azrider wrote:trump is that horse that's sitting back to turn it on for that final stretch. lancaster was the biggest gift he could ever get. BLM was once an asset and now is turning into a liability for the ticket.

https://thehill.com/homenews/514749-sup ... -june-poll

it's LAW AND ORDER.

lancaster is so beautifully framed for his narrative. it's almost too perfect, that does make me wonder about some of RP's claims about misinformation.

he's going to directly link democrats to the violence and the continuation of that violence. Biden/Harris will be on the defensive and it should've been the other way around. smh
they are going to have to defend their support for eliminating cash bail and supporting efforts to raise bail for the protesters. the line between protester and rioter has been blurred unfortunately.

with a republican controlled legal system and threatening 1 million cash bond. the riots in lancaster have stopped in their tracks. he's going to show off lancaster like a shiny christmas present to all the kids at school.

remember this is about perception NOT reality.

even without any definitive answer, his response and total lack of leadership for covid-19, which was borderline criminal imo, should be the focus of this election. instead we fell into a trap, i saw coming.

i urge you guys don't sit back. we don't need 4 more years of this. grassroots. talk to people. don't preach, but make people aware and how important this election is.

The Savior wrote:Biden with a fantastic Florida poll via Monmouth

slugsrbad wrote:

The Savior wrote:Biden with a fantastic Florida poll via Monmouth

He's up 3 points in likely voters (up 5 with registered voters) which is within the margin of error.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... fl_091520/

06hawkalum wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:

Adjusting for demographics and the possibility of change over the next two months, our forecast projects that the Democrat will ultimately carry the Keystone State by 4.6 points.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... nsylvania/

It really does seem like you are still traumatized by the 2016 election and are choosing to believe that Trump will win again just so that:

A. You won’t be crushed again if Trump wins.

B. You will be pleasantly surprised if Biden wins.

I guess from a psychological perspective, convincing yourself that “this time isn’t different” is a win-win for you.

This time is different though. Biden is a stronger candidate than Hillary, with all of her positives and few of her negatives.

I won't deny that is part of my motivation but also I just don't Trump's people voting for someone else and/or not showing up. I think he will pick up more angry white people because of COVID, not lose them.

Does Biden make up the difference by not being Hillary? Maybe. At best.

Considering that Hillary lost the EC by 55,000 votes and Trump has done nothing but shit the bed for the past four years (probably literally as well as figuratively, based on the fact he wears adult diapers) I think “not being Hillary” will indeed be more than enough. I also acknowledge that Trump still stands a very real chance to win and I am also prepared for that outcome.

slugsrbad wrote:

The Savior wrote:Biden with a fantastic Florida poll via Monmouth

He's up 3 points in likely voters (up 5 with registered voters) which is within the margin of error.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... fl_091520/

thephan wrote:Maybe this goes in the COVID thread, but this is crazy town politics related

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lif ... li=BBnbfcL

One woman says the child molesters want to wear masks.

Another says to the teachers: “You work for us!”

One even gets in her: "I can't breath" in there. “[He] was saying, ‘I can’t breathe,’ and then he died,” the woman observes, as if she makes any sense at all. “And now we’re wearing a mask, and we say ‘I can’t breathe,’ but we’re being forced to wear them anyway.”

06hawkalum wrote:

Phred wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:

Adjusting for demographics and the possibility of change over the next two months, our forecast projects that the Democrat will ultimately carry the Keystone State by 4.6 points.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... nsylvania/

It really does seem like you are still traumatized by the 2016 election and are choosing to believe that Trump will win again just so that:

A. You won’t be crushed again if Trump wins.

B. You will be pleasantly surprised if Biden wins.

I guess from a psychological perspective, convincing yourself that “this time isn’t different” is a win-win for you.

This time is different though. Biden is a stronger candidate than Hillary, with all of her positives and few of her negatives.

I won't deny that is part of my motivation but also I just don't Trump's people voting for someone else and/or not showing up. I think he will pick up more angry white people because of COVID, not lose them.

Does Biden make up the difference by not being Hillary? Maybe. At best.

Considering that Hillary lost the EC by 55,000 votes and Trump has done nothing but shit the bed for the past four years (probably literally as well as figuratively, based on the fact he wears adult diapers) I think “not being Hillary” will indeed be more than enough. I also acknowledge that Trump still stands a very real chance to win and I am also prepared for that outcome.

How have you prepared for that outcome? Bombshelter? Dual citizenship? Overseas house? Therapist and liquor store on speed-dial?

My feeling is that we survived four years of his incompetence, we can last another four. I don’t think this is an existential election in a literal sense. Four years from now I will be able to retire early at 41 and move elsewhere if absolutely necessary. You can acquire permanent residency or citizenship in plenty of countries with the appropriate amount of investment. A five year Thai visa is fairly affordable and I could live like royalty there.

thephan wrote:Maybe this goes in the COVID thread, but this is crazy town politics related

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lif ... li=BBnbfcL

One woman says the child molesters want to wear masks.

Another says to the teachers: “You work for us!”

One even gets in her: "I can't breath" in there. “[He] was saying, ‘I can’t breathe,’ and then he died,” the woman observes, as if she makes any sense at all. “And now we’re wearing a mask, and we say ‘I can’t breathe,’ but we’re being forced to wear them anyway.”

slugsrbad wrote:

The Savior wrote:Biden with a fantastic Florida poll via Monmouth

He's up 3 points in likely voters (up 5 with registered voters) which is within the margin of error.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... fl_091520/

slugsrbad wrote:

The Savior wrote:Biden with a fantastic Florida poll via Monmouth

He's up 3 points in likely voters (up 5 with registered voters) which is within the margin of error.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... fl_091520/

threecount wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

The Savior wrote:Biden with a fantastic Florida poll via Monmouth

He's up 3 points in likely voters (up 5 with registered voters) which is within the margin of error.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... fl_091520/

Even if Trump wins Florida, correct me if I'm wrong, but if Biden wins PA, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota and Arizona, which I think is more likely, Biden wins...