color me relieved

The B1G Piece wrote:Jared said all this has been a great success story.

#$!&@ YOU

It’s an election year, is this at all surprising?

momadance wrote:Sounds convincing.

@ddale8
Asked how to protect workers in meat plants, Trump says they'll have a report this afternoon: "We're gonna have good form of protection. Through quarantine, when we find somebody that's not - we're gonna be - they're gonna be very careful. They are."

Please see page 40 of this thread for photographic evidence as to how "careful" this Administration is.

traderdave wrote:

The B1G Piece wrote:Jared said all this has been a great success story.

#$!&@ YOU

“We’re on the other side of the medical aspect of this,” Kushner said in an interview with Fox News. “We’ve achieved all the different milestones that are needed. The federal government rose to the challenge, and this is a great success story.”


Completely and utterly wrong and, especially, out of touch. I wonder if the families of the deceased consider the federal government's response a "success".

Idk, the dire predictions used to sell the need for the extreme measures that have been taken have made the bed for this claim. The people who wanted extreme social distancing got it on the notion that if you don't do it, 1.5M - 2M people could die. Which, by the way, I totally believe might well have been the case. But by setting the bar that high, if deaths come in under 100,000 before, say, it's August and people have basically moved on, which I expect now they will, it lays the foundation for this claim by Kushner/the Trump administration.

It really is a no-win for Dems looking to turn it in to one because you are arguing against a hypothetical, and since you've (correctly) used the hypothetical worst-case to underscore the need for the extreme measures, Trump can and will claim credit for steering well clear of the worst case scenario that Dems (properly) floated.

It's heads he wins tails we lose.

I think that's overstating how much credit they can credibly claim with independents. The US being number 1 here says a lot.

Werthless wrote:I think that's overstating how much credit they can credibly claim with independents. The US being number 1 here says a lot.

i'll call of 8 of them personally

joe table wrote:

The B1G Piece wrote:Jared said all this has been a great success story.

#$!&@ YOU

It’s an election year, is this at all surprising?

Very true, but this is Jared Kushner, noted real estate slumlord pontificating on government response.

Powell and the Fed won't stop until Trump is reelected.

Wolfgang622 wrote:

traderdave wrote:

The B1G Piece wrote:Jared said all this has been a great success story.

#$!&@ YOU

“We’re on the other side of the medical aspect of this,” Kushner said in an interview with Fox News. “We’ve achieved all the different milestones that are needed. The federal government rose to the challenge, and this is a great success story.”


Completely and utterly wrong and, especially, out of touch. I wonder if the families of the deceased consider the federal government's response a "success".

Idk, the dire predictions used to sell the need for the extreme measures that have been taken have made the bed for this claim. The people who wanted extreme social distancing got it on the notion that if you don't do it, 1.5M - 2M people could die. Which, by the way, I totally believe might well have been the case. But by setting the bar that high, if deaths come in under 100,000 before, say, it's August and people have basically moved on, which I expect now they will, it lays the foundation for this claim by Kushner/the Trump administration.

It really is a no-win for Dems looking to turn it in to one because you are arguing against a hypothetical, and since you've (correctly) used the hypothetical worst-case to underscore the need for the extreme measures, Trump can and will claim credit for steering well clear of the worst case scenario that Dems (properly) floated.

It's heads he wins tails we lose.

You can only imagine what it would have looked like if we came into 2020 with an all out preparation effort and plan. Now that would have been a success.

Uncle Milty wrote:Powell and the Fed won't stop until Trump is reelected.

He sounded today like they’d be willing to go to negative rate targets. Probably after horrendous 2Q numbers come out

Wolfgang622 wrote:

traderdave wrote:

The B1G Piece wrote:Jared said all this has been a great success story.

#$!&@ YOU

“We’re on the other side of the medical aspect of this,” Kushner said in an interview with Fox News. “We’ve achieved all the different milestones that are needed. The federal government rose to the challenge, and this is a great success story.”


Completely and utterly wrong and, especially, out of touch. I wonder if the families of the deceased consider the federal government's response a "success".

Idk, the dire predictions used to sell the need for the extreme measures that have been taken have made the bed for this claim. The people who wanted extreme social distancing got it on the notion that if you don't do it, 1.5M - 2M people could die. Which, by the way, I totally believe might well have been the case. But by setting the bar that high, if deaths come in under 100,000 before, say, it's August and people have basically moved on, which I expect now they will, it lays the foundation for this claim by Kushner/the Trump administration.

It really is a no-win for Dems looking to turn it in to one because you are arguing against a hypothetical, and since you've (correctly) used the hypothetical worst-case to underscore the need for the extreme measures, Trump can and will claim credit for steering well clear of the worst case scenario that Dems (properly) floated.

It's heads he wins tails we lose.

That's only the case if you fail to frame it as a leadership issue rather than a numbers issue. Every country got fucked over by the coronavirus to a degree great or small, all with differing leadership styles, philosophies and ways of combating it. Figuring out how much role these and other factors played in what impact it had is impossible, not to mention Americans aren't going to listen to what other countries did anyway. It certainly would have had a large impact on the United states no matter who was in charge. Could deaths and infections have been reduced with a Democratic president in charge? Sure, absolutely, maybe, probably. No way to prove it though though for sure, so if you go blustering on about it, and promising that you would have SAVED LIVES it just sounds like Monday Morning quarterbacking and of course Trump can trumpet that he SAVED LIVES in reality based on some projections (even it had to be dragged into it, and was largely superseded by the nation's governors acting responsibly), as opposed to the hypothetical ones.

Anyway, before I start to ramble (too late) ,the thing as I see it is to focus on the next crisis and advertise your candidate as someone who trusts and will fully fund science , and will not lie and diminish threats for his own gain and not make up fairy tales to placate the American people but is willing to pass on bad news so people can be prepared as opposed to hashing out the specifics of what's gone before. You're not going to win over the "give me golfing or give me death" people anyway, but I think there are indications that those in the middle are sick of the BS.

Wolfgang622 wrote:

traderdave wrote:

The B1G Piece wrote:Jared said all this has been a great success story.

#$!&@ YOU

“We’re on the other side of the medical aspect of this,” Kushner said in an interview with Fox News. “We’ve achieved all the different milestones that are needed. The federal government rose to the challenge, and this is a great success story.”


Completely and utterly wrong and, especially, out of touch. I wonder if the families of the deceased consider the federal government's response a "success".

Idk, the dire predictions used to sell the need for the extreme measures that have been taken have made the bed for this claim. The people who wanted extreme social distancing got it on the notion that if you don't do it, 1.5M - 2M people could die. Which, by the way, I totally believe might well have been the case. But by setting the bar that high, if deaths come in under 100,000 before, say, it's August and people have basically moved on, which I expect now they will, it lays the foundation for this claim by Kushner/the Trump administration.

It really is a no-win for Dems looking to turn it in to one because you are arguing against a hypothetical, and since you've (correctly) used the hypothetical worst-case to underscore the need for the extreme measures, Trump can and will claim credit for steering well clear of the worst case scenario that Dems (properly) floated.

It's heads he wins tails we lose.

We are going to hit 100,000 before the end of May.

06hawkalum wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

traderdave wrote:

The B1G Piece wrote:Jared said all this has been a great success story.

#$!&@ YOU

“We’re on the other side of the medical aspect of this,” Kushner said in an interview with Fox News. “We’ve achieved all the different milestones that are needed. The federal government rose to the challenge, and this is a great success story.”


Completely and utterly wrong and, especially, out of touch. I wonder if the families of the deceased consider the federal government's response a "success".

Idk, the dire predictions used to sell the need for the extreme measures that have been taken have made the bed for this claim. The people who wanted extreme social distancing got it on the notion that if you don't do it, 1.5M - 2M people could die. Which, by the way, I totally believe might well have been the case. But by setting the bar that high, if deaths come in under 100,000 before, say, it's August and people have basically moved on, which I expect now they will, it lays the foundation for this claim by Kushner/the Trump administration.

It really is a no-win for Dems looking to turn it in to one because you are arguing against a hypothetical, and since you've (correctly) used the hypothetical worst-case to underscore the need for the extreme measures, Trump can and will claim credit for steering well clear of the worst case scenario that Dems (properly) floated.

It's heads he wins tails we lose.

We are going to hit 100,000 before the end of May.

By current trends that's highly unlikely (certainly hope so). I could see it happening if a lot of out of hospital deaths and ones that were not specifically linked to coronavirus at the time are reevaluated and added to the count. Either way I don't think that number plays much politically.

joe table wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:Powell and the Fed won't stop until Trump is reelected.

He sounded today like they’d be willing to go to negative rate targets. Probably after horrendous 2Q numbers come out

Bank gonna pay me here soon to live in my house.

The Savior wrote:

joe table wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:Powell and the Fed won't stop until Trump is reelected.

He sounded today like they’d be willing to go to negative rate targets. Probably after horrendous 2Q numbers come out

Bank gonna pay me here soon to live in my house.

It will make the rich fabulously rich.

Former Maine Gov. Paul LePage intends to run for his former seat. Did Maine miss him?

thephan wrote:Former Maine Gov. Paul LePage intends to run for his former seat. Did Maine miss him?

He's smart. The Russians are going to hack the voting system as they did last time, except this time they are going to change some numbers. GOP will win all the major races. They will dare dems to do something about it, but there is no constitutional remedy.

I thought he moved to Florida

fire alarm up in blue bell, site notes say "any ems calls dispatch pennstar immediately and provide resident's name". that name? Leonard Abramson

"It's good to be king"

pennstar= University of Pennsylvania Hospital's medical helicopter

PennStar is ground ambulance too. did you find out if it was a helicopter?