Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby thephan » Sun Sep 15, 2019 20:53:08

thephan wrote:
The Savior wrote:
PhillieMooDo wrote:
The Savior wrote:There appears to be a very serious whistleblower allegation from the Intelligence Community. May pertain to senior WH officials.

What's this now?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.co ... ower%3famp



Trump suggests 'innocent' Kavanaugh should sue, blasts media for 'lies'


Pretty amazing even for him


Piling on: Trump says his DOJ should 'rescue' Brett Kavanaugh
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby The Savior » Sun Sep 15, 2019 20:53:19

thephan wrote:I think it’s presumptive to hang it on Iran. For every reason in the world that you’ve been trained, you would believe that it would be Iran, but some facts seem a lot more than prudent.

The “you” in this case is really pretty much all of us.


The Houthi have claimed responsibility. Very unlikely it has this level of drone like capability and pulled off this type of attack without Iran’s support.

Had the Houthi not immediately claimed responsibility I would be more skeptical about other players involvement, namely Israel.
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby Bucky » Sun Sep 15, 2019 20:55:49

Elon Musk has the technology

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby thephan » Sun Sep 15, 2019 23:49:31

"According to the director of national intelligence (DNI), the reason he's not acting to provide it, even though the statute mandates that he do so, is because he is being instructed not to. This involved a higher authority, someone above the DNI," Schiff, who is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said in an interview with CBS News' "Face the Nation."


This ignore the subpoena thing has to have some legal bounds. Imperialism is not a valid excuse.
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby Uncle Milty » Sun Sep 15, 2019 23:56:58

This coming-soon-to-a-"theater"-near-your-gas-pump war with Iran will certainly get Trump reelected.
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Sep 16, 2019 00:01:47

The Savior wrote:
thephan wrote:I think it’s presumptive to hang it on Iran. For every reason in the world that you’ve been trained, you would believe that it would be Iran, but some facts seem a lot more than prudent.

The “you” in this case is really pretty much all of us.


The Houthi have claimed responsibility. Very unlikely it has this level of drone like capability and pulled off this type of attack without Iran’s support.

Had the Houthi not immediately claimed responsibility I would be more skeptical about other players involvement, namely Israel.


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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby thephan » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:20:23

Trump: House Judiciary should investigate Obama Netflix deal instead of his business


Indeed, private citizen Obama is abusing his powers
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby pacino » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:36:05

the Working Families Party endorsed Elizabeth Warren
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Sep 16, 2019 13:14:20

pacino wrote:the Working Families Party endorsed Elizabeth Warren


I’m sure Bernie bros on Twitter are accepting this reality.
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby thephan » Mon Sep 16, 2019 16:38:20

slugsrbad wrote:
pacino wrote:the Working Families Party endorsed Elizabeth Warren


I’m sure Bernie bros on Twitter are accepting this reality.


Survey says: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... eth-warren
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby traderdave » Mon Sep 16, 2019 16:56:09

Cool. We can all look forward to their spite votes for Trump next year.

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Sep 16, 2019 17:16:11

Yeah. Gotta love this:

“In an interview with the New York Times, Mitchell emphasized that making an endorsement decision right now isn’t just about Warren, Sanders, or whatever candidate the group is going to back — it’s also about organizing against. . .”

You may think the next words are going to be “Donald Trump,” but, wait for it. . .

the current frontrunner, Joe Biden. He’s encouraging other progressive groups to get off the sidelines, pick a candidate, and start pushing back against the former vice president as well.”
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby td11 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 18:40:03

traderdave wrote:Cool. We can all look forward to their spite votes for Trump next year.

Again, this didn't happen in 2016
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby Bucky » Mon Sep 16, 2019 18:41:01

i know a few



and yes the plural of anecdote is not 'data'

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby td11 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 18:46:11

That sucks.

Continuing to blame voters for voting a certain way instead of the Hillary campaign for not doing their job seems misguided in general

You can also blame Comey, wikileaks, mitch mcconnell, etc. But bernie voters and 3rd party voters and Susan Sarandon and whoever else don't really deserve the ire they still seem to get from mainstream Dems
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby Bucky » Mon Sep 16, 2019 18:47:39

you know who most deserves the ire of mainstream dems?

mainstream dems

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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Sep 16, 2019 18:51:30

td11 wrote:Continuing to blame voters for voting a certain way instead of the Hillary campaign for not doing their job seems misguided in general


False dilemma. Both can share some responsibility.
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby td11 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 19:09:16

Well one is individual voters, and the other is a multi million dollar campaign. But you do you, not trying to get into a silly argument about 2016

My wife and i will volunteer and donate to whoever the dem nom is when the time comes, and i believe most other dem voters will too (get in line, that is)

Voter suppression by GOP a much bigger issue that leads to less votes for dems imo
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Sep 16, 2019 20:03:06

td11 wrote:Well one is individual voters, and the other is a multi million dollar campaign. But you do you, not trying to get into a silly argument about 2016

My wife and i will volunteer and donate to whoever the dem nom is when the time comes, and i believe most other dem voters will too (get in line, that is)

Voter suppression by GOP a much bigger issue that leads to less votes for dems imo


Well one is 120+ million voters, and the other is a campaign by a single candidate. But you do you, not trying to get into a silly argument about 2016.

I can make a reductionist, lopsided argument, too. Anyone can.

As for your point that "Voter suppression by GOP a much bigger issue that leads to less votes for dems imo," once again you're presenting a false dilemma. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Poor performance by Hillary and her campaign, voter suppression by the GOP and irrational choices by voters -- along with other issues -- all contribute to Democrat election woes.
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Re: Politics: Fine Politicians on Both Sides

Postby thephan » Tue Sep 17, 2019 08:40:22

Image

Celebrating making it for a failing grade in the poll that loves him most! That is from a tweet... of course.

Upon reflection: Maybe in his childhood home, 50% plus a couple hundo to the teacher is an A. #Smartest #Because
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