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Postby thephan » Thu Apr 18, 2019 08:13:04

Early copy out for review

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 18, 2019 09:41:38

Barr just repeating Trump didn't do the hacks with the Russians over and over

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Postby pacino » Thu Apr 18, 2019 09:46:04

Just absurd

Release the report, doofus
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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 18, 2019 09:50:50

pacino wrote:Just absurd

Release the report, doofus


Bill Clinton talked to the AG for one minute on a tarmac!!

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Postby JUburton » Thu Apr 18, 2019 09:52:46

Best case scenario is this pisses trump off so much he has a heart attack and dies.

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 18, 2019 09:55:45

Appears Barr would be saying that aides did participate in disseminating the illegally obtained emails but that's not illegal to do that basically. I mean, he didn't say that but he used a lot of words to not say that.

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 18, 2019 09:58:50

What a weird thing that was

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Postby Phred » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:02:04

JUburton wrote:Best case scenario is this pisses trump off so much he has a heart attack and dies.


That's not best case. He doesn't suffer enough in that scenario.
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Postby swishnicholson » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:05:26

If I heard right, apparently Mueller gave 10 scenarios wherein Trump could possibly be prosecuted for obstruction of justice. AG's office just said, "Nah."
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Postby thephan » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:08:01

Barr said 7 - 10 times stuff about nothing that is not material that leads to the pending tweet storm (bet they are queued).
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Postby thephan » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:09:45

Curious that receipt of stolen goods is not some type of problem.
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Postby slugsrbad » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:31:38

Glad I went for a jog instead of listening to this
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Postby JUburton » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:18:44

There are 11 transfers of cases: 2 are redacted as harms to ongoing matters. There are 14 referrals of 'you may want to look at this potential criminal activity.' TWELVE are redacted as harms to ongoing matters. Only two that aren't are Cohen and Manafort's attorneys.

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:30:01

press is reading through the report--

The Associated Press

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Mueller team considered Trump's written answers 'inadequate,' but decided against subpoena fight for interview.

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:32:59

JUburton wrote:There are 11 transfers of cases: 2 are redacted as harms to ongoing matters. There are 14 referrals of 'you may want to look at this potential criminal activity.' TWELVE are redacted as harms to ongoing matters. Only two that aren't are Cohen and Manafort's attorneys.


whats a transfer of case?

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:42:19

man this thing completely exonerates him! he was right!

the non redacated shit i have randomly scrolled to and read is bad and gross. cant imagine what the redacted stuff says.

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Postby JUburton » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:44:02

CalvinBall wrote:
JUburton wrote:There are 11 transfers of cases: 2 are redacted as harms to ongoing matters. There are 14 referrals of 'you may want to look at this potential criminal activity.' TWELVE are redacted as harms to ongoing matters. Only two that aren't are Cohen and Manafort's attorneys.


whats a transfer of case?
Those are the ones that have already mostly been completed/started at the federal level. SC found some shit related to the inquiry and got it prosecuted. Flynn, Kilimink, Manfort, IRA, etc.

The referrals are just other shady probably illegal stuff (Sent to SDNY among others I assume).

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:45:17

JUburton wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:
JUburton wrote:There are 11 transfers of cases: 2 are redacted as harms to ongoing matters. There are 14 referrals of 'you may want to look at this potential criminal activity.' TWELVE are redacted as harms to ongoing matters. Only two that aren't are Cohen and Manafort's attorneys.


whats a transfer of case?
Those are the ones that have already mostly been completed/started at the federal level. SC found some shit related to the inquiry and got it prosecuted. Flynn, Kilimink, Manfort, IRA, etc.

The referrals are just other shady probably illegal stuff (Sent to SDNY among others I assume).


read a quick part where they talk about cohen paying off daniels and others. said they didnt investigate that matter further. maybe that is one of them?

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:47:59

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of that facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment.”

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:51:32

Mueller identified “numerous” Trump campaign-Russia contacts, but the evidence did not rise to the level of a crime.

While the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges. Among other things, the evidence was not sufficient to charge any Campaign official as an unregistered agent of the Russian government or other Russian principal. And our evidence about the June 9, 2016 meeting and WikiLeak’s release of hacked materials was not sufficient to charge a criminal campaign-finance violation.

Mr. Barr repeatedly said that the president’s campaign did not collude with Russia. Mr. Mueller’s report offers a more nuanced definition. He writes not that there was ample evidence of contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia as it carried out its social media influence and hacking campaigns, but rather that the evidence was not strong enough to support bringing criminal charges.


bold is text from the report

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