Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Feb 22, 2019 21:11:22

Or maybe an argument to increase congressional staff and office budgets.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Fri Feb 22, 2019 21:27:39

Bigger government
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Fri Feb 22, 2019 21:29:33

Not a single comment on slavery reparations. Qow, its old new at this point
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:43:15

That Feinstein video is bad. So many people were like the clip is just edited! You have to see the whole thing! But the whole thing is worse, so...?

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby joboggi » Sat Feb 23, 2019 13:56:59

thephan wrote:Not a single comment on slavery reparations. Qow, its old new at this point


The USA embarked on what turned out to be a very successful affirmative action project two generations ago.

There is now clearly upward mobility for AA.

IN other words, you can get there if you try.

If this was 1964, I would add reparations to affirmative action.

In 2019 we need to secure voting rights and continue affirmative action for one more generation.

MLK's wish is ahead, by one generation of continuing to move forward.

I would continue what we are doing. 55 years is a significant effort.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby joboggi » Sat Feb 23, 2019 14:09:33

Lol

You should just look around.

Seriously

Grow up

Oh that is interesting. The message to which I was replying disappeared.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Sat Feb 23, 2019 14:23:20

yeah, I forget sometimes that I don't post in this thread, especially not to refute a determined idiot. African American wealth is a shred of white wealth relative to population and it only gets worse over time. there has been no successful affirmative action project

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby jamiethekiller » Sat Feb 23, 2019 14:28:35

But at the other end of the spectrum, you take places like Atlanta, Georgia; or Charlotte, North Carolina; or much of the southeast of the U.S., and you have rates of upward mobility below four-and-a-half percent. Lower than any country for which we currently have data.

DUBNER: So that shouldn’t really, I guess, surprise us if you know a little bit about the makeup and history of the United States and the fact that we are states that have different policies, different populations and then obviously counties and cities that really differ a lot.

CHETTY: Yeah, I think that’s right. But I think that line of thinking would lead you to think that most of this variation is regional. But what’s perhaps more surprising is that as we zoom in more finely we continue to find almost as much variation. So kids growing up in San Francisco, for example, have about twice the chance of climbing from the bottom to top as kids just across the Bay Bridge in Oakland.


http://freakonomics.com/podcast/america ... ally-dead/

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby joboggi » Sat Feb 23, 2019 14:45:02

Houshphandzadeh wrote:yeah, I forget sometimes that I don't post in this thread, especially not to refute a determined idiot. African American wealth is a shred of white wealth relative to population and it only gets worse over time. there has been no successful affirmative action project


Aha

I feel sorry for you.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby joboggi » Sat Feb 23, 2019 15:26:50

In terms of overall wealth there is a long way to go.

The size of the AA middle class continues to grow.

Studies I have read note two things, persistent racism, and a large, actually huge deficit in language and other skills dating to before school age.

The last point will improve when the African American middle class reaches a certain size.

The size of the AA middle class continues to grow.

I live in downtown Silver Spring. We are a ground zero for the success of affirmative action. My PT and Dentist are from Trinidad.

The local rents continue skyward as the local African American population continues to grow.

In 1985, I would say the African American population in this upper middle class neighborhood was low. Very low.

Now it is very significant.

Following behind is the population of PG county to the east.

The AA middle class is growing more than wealth.

The % of AA in college has grown. You cannot refute that.

Just getting started, essentially, the wealth of AA took a remarkable hit during the great Recession.

That is striking.

In the next generation the size of the AA middle class will hopefully reach critical mass.

It could take longer.

Without getting rid of racism, and the knowledge gap that dates to preschool, advances will continue to be limited.

Things are not as they were in 1964. Those conditions led to 1968 when I saw my first and only shooting when my dad got lost in DC.

Interesting.

Affirmative action has increased the size of the middle class.

Based on what I am seeing, a predominant AA Clientele at the very upscale Sheraton, and surrounding area, along with PG county, I hope it will just take one more generation.

I live a half block from the Sheraton. The neighborhood mix began to change in the mid 90's

The AA middle class is increasing in size.

AFTER the great recession, AA wealth took a very outsized hit. That is a problem.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Sat Feb 23, 2019 21:24:04

What happened to Qanon?
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby joboggi » Sun Feb 24, 2019 06:05:10

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/07/black-u ... -year.html

Barack was especially good for African American Unemployment. That trend continued under racist Trump. If AA are working, it is a matter of time to acquire wealth. I would recommend the 401K and the match at your place of business, and then just BUY the SPY with whatever money is available in the 401K. I would also continue to learn. Even with my retired income, I find I can save for vacations and not take it out of the nut. I continue to take online courses and now that I am fully retired, I will be going to university in the fall.

The SEVERE HIT suffered in the Great Recession is documented in this graph.

I am sure you can find subsets who are not working, and those who make minimum wage dont get much. However as a whole, 6% unemployment is a remarkable improvement. The next step is to help guarantee your employment in the next downturn with additional training, and what not. Of course, there is no guarantee, but the more skills you have the more likely you are to get a job.

Yes, 6% is not 4% but it is just drastically better than say 1964.

I do not like taking complaints like yours. Only 6% are not working. That is a triumph of the American Society. There is a lot of racism out there, but the graph has not changed one bit since the Donald took office.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby joboggi » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:26:47

Income disparity is not nearly as severe as wealth.

ESPECIALLY FOR A MARRIED COUPLE.

Wealth will be the last to reach parity.

http://blackdemographics.com/households ... an-income/

One more generation of affirmative action should bring parity in income.

Wealth will flow from income.

Changes take generations.

It took 100 years after the civil war to get started in earnest.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby JFLNYC » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:44:41

The problem is both income and wealth are trending towards greater disparity and have been for the last 3 decades. Unless and until that trend is reversed income and wealth inequality will widen, not narrow. It’s not limited to racial inequality either. It’s a much, much broader socioeconomic and political issue.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby joboggi » Sun Feb 24, 2019 13:12:36

Aha

Married AA COUPLE income 65k
White 76k

These are within 16% of each other.

Follow the link.

This is catching up not falling behind.

It is remarkable.

Racism
Preschool deficit in learning, of about a million words.
The single v married couple AA income.

White v AA married couple income is near parity.

Work on racism, achieving a critical mass of married middle class blacks and the difference will close.

Married couples are just 16% behind.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Sun Feb 24, 2019 13:53:04

The President

"It will be called 'A Salute To America' and will be held at the Lincoln Memorial. Major fireworks display, entertainment and an address by your favorite President, me!"


Hey dumbass, as a resident of the area for over two decades we always have a star studded concert at the Lincoln memorial and a knockout fireworks show on The Mall. Every forking year. Hell, PBS televises the follow on show at the capital before the fireworks, and the show itself (never really understood watching fireworks on TV, but whatever).
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby joboggi » Sun Feb 24, 2019 15:18:26

Next up

Don Jr
Jared

Get indicted.

Then Michael Cohen sings in public, and instead of taking the pill and going back to reality, all hell breaks loose.

Collusion

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby pacino » Sun Feb 24, 2019 16:36:56

CalvinBall wrote:That Feinstein video is bad. So many people were like the clip is just edited! You have to see the whole thing! But the whole thing is worse, so...?

she has never been very forward-thinking; it was very disappointing to see people coalesce around her in California and re-elect her over a much better option.

her time as mayor of San Francisco looks really bad in retrospect.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby pacino » Sun Feb 24, 2019 16:39:56

Netanyahu is siding with openly racist and fascistic groups in order to keep power. He opposed AIPAC!

Their condemnation came in the wake of an unsual denouncement from the pro-Israel lobby AIPAC, which took to Twitter on Friday to express support ort for a statement issued by American Jewish Committee. The AJC comment, which was published on Thursday, described Otzma Yehudit as “reprehensible” and noted that in the past, the large parties in Israel refused to cooperate with such extremist forces.


Netanyahu rival and Hosen L'Yisrael chairman Benny Gantz also backed criticism against the prime minister. "The unusual response by AIPAC, an organization that does not routinely deal with internal Israeli politics, proves that Benjamin Netanyahu again crossed ethical lines just so he could hold on to his seat, while hurting Israel's character, Jewish morale and our important relations with U.S. Jewry."
Labor MK Itzik Shmuli said in response to the prime minister's comments: "Every Israeli should thank AIPAC and AJC for their firm and resolute stance against Netanyahu's abhorrent alliance with the Kahanists."
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