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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby The Savior » Sun Jan 20, 2019 09:34:33

lol trump essentially tweeting at coulter this AM
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Sun Jan 20, 2019 13:21:23

The mother of a boy filmed harassing a Native American man along with his friends at a rally in Washington DChas blamed “black Muslims” for the confrontation, without providing any evidence for the claim.



Separate video shared online showed a group of black men standing near the scene of the confrontation, arguing with the MAGA hat-wearing Trump supporters. It is unclear to which religious group the men belonged, but they could be heard quoting passages from the Old Testament of the Bible.



OK then, those lads were clearly on the right side of this equation.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby The Savior » Sun Jan 20, 2019 13:35:39

But there were black people there!
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Sun Jan 20, 2019 13:42:39

You could have Rudy as your lawyer or spend a night in a hotel with Hannibal Lecter, which one is safer?

CNN wrote:Giuliani says Trump might have talked to Cohen about testimony.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby The Savior » Sun Jan 20, 2019 18:10:37

thephan wrote:You could have Rudy as your lawyer or spend a night in a hotel with Hannibal Lecter, which one is safer?

CNN wrote:Giuliani says Trump might have talked to Cohen about testimony.


Called it totally normal. This is not normal.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Jan 20, 2019 18:56:01

Their plan is to slowly change their story until he's allowed to do whatever the hell he wants because he's the president. I don't think Rudy is an idiot (well, maybe, but I don't think this is evidence of it). He's following a script to slowly change was is normal and accepted. You can't go straight from NO COLLUSION AND NO OBSTRUCTION to doing both as if they are normal. It has to be slowly walked back. We're all frogs in a pot of slowly heating water. Most of us are smart enough to jump out of the water, but his base is so invested that they believe the water is fine. We have to hope that reality hits them at some point and they jump out as well. Otherwise, this is crisis is going to get much worse.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Jan 20, 2019 19:05:59

Uncle Milty wrote:Honestly, I don't think Rudy real knows the whole truth. So as each part comes to light he has to adjust. He's just too much of a toady to do anything but keep defending.


I think rudy was involved with much of this stuff from the beginning. He was certainly involved in the turkey stuff(ing). And the turkey stuff and the russia stuff is pretty connected.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby threecount » Sun Jan 20, 2019 19:28:25

Rudy definitely knew...I always think of that time during the campaign when Rudy sat on FOX NEWS during the Hannity show and talked about "something big" coming...

The next day was the first big Wikileaks drop concerning Hillary's e-mails...

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby joboggi » Sun Jan 20, 2019 19:32:03

threecount wrote:Rudy definitely knew...I always think of that time during the campaign when Rudy sat on FOX NEWS during the Hannity show and talked about "something big" coming...

The next day was the first big Wikileaks drop concerning Hillary's e-mails...


Somebody needs to pull that clip

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby threecount » Sun Jan 20, 2019 19:43:43

joboggi wrote:
threecount wrote:Rudy definitely knew...I always think of that time during the campaign when Rudy sat on FOX NEWS during the Hannity show and talked about "something big" coming...

The next day was the first big Wikileaks drop concerning Hillary's e-mails...


Somebody needs to pull that clip


You do remember that happening though? I'm not crazy, right?

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby threecount » Sun Jan 20, 2019 20:05:32

Found it...here is the clip..it was with Martha McCallum....towards end of interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-4mDUS1a9w

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Jan 20, 2019 20:27:07

He also went a bit nuts and had to be pulled from a case about something related to the Turkey/Flynn mess. Rudy is definitely involved in the whole russia/Turkey nexus.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby joboggi » Sun Jan 20, 2019 23:48:08

threecount wrote:
joboggi wrote:
threecount wrote:Rudy definitely knew...I always think of that time during the campaign when Rudy sat on FOX NEWS during the Hannity show and talked about "something big" coming...

The next day was the first big Wikileaks drop concerning Hillary's e-mails...


Somebody needs to pull that clip


You do remember that happening though? I'm not crazy, right?


I watch Fox about as often as I play golf nowadays. Almost never

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby joboggi » Sun Jan 20, 2019 23:53:00

threecount wrote:Found it...here is the clip..it was with Martha McCallum....towards end of interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-4mDUS1a9w


The FBI found abedin's laptop about then, but there was nothing out of wikileaks the week before the election.

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Mon Jan 21, 2019 07:48:14

As always there’s more to the story with the video of the incident around they indigenous peoples celebration. There’s a longer video about an hour or so which I’ve only seen descriptions of. It doesn’t really get much better, just longer. The black Israelis are rallying, and they take some exception to the Maga hat folks, and the kids apparently disappear for a little bit, and then they come back and get into the mix of things. Something about a kid ripping his shirt off and chanting and dancing around, which were supposed to be school spirit, and then the show down where the drum player put himself between the protesters and the maga guys, leading up to the kid in the viral video getting up in the other gentleman‘s face and blocking his way. At that point the report slides on over to basically what you know from the viral video with the Catholic kids chanting build the wall and marking what the Native Americans are doing, and basically being super aggressive.

There certainly was some dust up between the black Israelis in the Catholic school kids, but they left and got permission then came back in force to pull off what only looks like harassment. Extraordinarily poor judgment. I saw some headline associated with Fox that I did not follow up, but it certainly made it sound like they were lining the kid up to be a hero for getting in the face of the elderly gentleman.

Hey but there’s more to the story, is not a good more to this story.

"A student in our group asked one of our teacher chaperones for permission to begin our school spirit chants to counter the hateful things that were being shouted at our group," Sandmann said in his statement. "The chants are commonly used at sporting events. They are all positive in nature and sound like what you would hear at any high school," he said.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby LastTrain » Mon Jan 21, 2019 07:54:01

thephan wrote:
The mother of a boy filmed harassing a Native American man along with his friends at a rally in Washington DChas blamed “black Muslims” for the confrontation, without providing any evidence for the claim.



Separate video shared online showed a group of black men standing near the scene of the confrontation, arguing with the MAGA hat-wearing Trump supporters. It is unclear to which religious group the men belonged, but they could be heard quoting passages from the Old Testament of the Bible.



OK then, those lads were clearly on the right side of this equation.


Not sure where the truth lies in this one. The mom is indeed wrong with the Muslim part...the men apparently self-identified as members of "The Hebrew Israelites" which at least better explains their use of the OT. CNN's video and article does seem to tell quite a different story than what was first presented.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/us/maga- ... index.html

This is the student's account...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covin ... index.html

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby The Savior » Mon Jan 21, 2019 09:17:14

“He was praying”

“His smiling was to show folks he was not going to be violent”

The only part of the statement that isn’t a lie is the part where the chaperones failed these kids (and separately their parents).
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Mon Jan 21, 2019 09:39:59

The chaperones and teachers should have moved them on regardless. If there was danger, then there is a nice view of the Potomac near by. Why would it be a quality choice to go show some good old school spirit?

Oh, an some creepy kid getting in my face with a smile while his pals chant 'build the wall' seems demented, not non-threatening.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Mon Jan 21, 2019 09:54:53

Kamala Harris declared. There are 6 announced Dems going to an MLK event (not Harris) who are exploring options. It seems wrong to make these events political.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:02:15

Uncle Milty wrote:Here's a crazy idea. Everyone shares a little responsibility.


Really not that easy since the students left, hatched a plan with the approval of the adults and returned to show some school spirit. Bad people on both sides has been a weak argument. Had the students simply moved on there would be no issue or incident with the indigenous peoples participants trying to keep some peace. Heck if the viral video was of the Black Israelites harassing the students this would be a whole different situation.
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