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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:02:33


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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:05:39

Seems like a nitpick; they are advocating for Israel and obviously what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.

I've yet to hear what the allowable criticisms are. I oppose the Likud movement; is this allowable? Am I allowed to dislike a right-wing leader? I just don't get why these bad faith criticisms from the right should have any sway. And I rather dislike being tut-tutted by JFL everytime something about Israel comes up. I don't suddenly halt my disapproval of rightwing leadership because it's leading Israel.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:07:53

JFLNYC wrote:
pacino wrote:
pacino wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
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There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of Israel and AIPAC.

such as?


We live in a world where Jews and Blacks are still gunned down in their places of worship by anti-semites and racists. Please don’t turn this into a juvenile game of gotcha. You’re better than that.

I'd like to know what legitimate criticisms there are.


dis·in·gen·u·ous
/ˌdisənˈjenyo͞oəs/Submit
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adjective: disingenuous
not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

Use in a sentence: “Sorry I dislike right-wing disingenuous crap, jfl.” Pacino, Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:19 pm.

One of us is disingenuous here and it's not me. What was the point of you bring up 'blacks' in a reply to me?
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:09:48

pacino wrote:Seems like a nitpick; they are advocating for Israel and obviously what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.

I've yet to hear what the allowable criticisms are. I oppose the Likud movement; is this allowable? Am I allowed to dislike a right-wing leader? I just don't get why these bad faith criticisms from the right should have any sway. And I rather dislike being tut-tutted by JFL everytime something about Israel comes up. I don't suddenly halt my disapproval of rightwing leadership because it's leading Israel.

You are going beyond disliking bad faith criticism from the right. You said the tweets weren't anti-Semitic, criticism has come from across the political spectrum, and she apologized for them.

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby Slowhand » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:10:18

Uncle Milty wrote:Glad we're on page 50


And Harper and Machado STILL aren't signed.
How dare you interrupt my Lime Rickey!

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:16:35

jerseyhoya wrote:
pacino wrote:Seems like a nitpick; they are advocating for Israel and obviously what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.

I've yet to hear what the allowable criticisms are. I oppose the Likud movement; is this allowable? Am I allowed to dislike a right-wing leader? I just don't get why these bad faith criticisms from the right should have any sway. And I rather dislike being tut-tutted by JFL everytime something about Israel comes up. I don't suddenly halt my disapproval of rightwing leadership because it's leading Israel.

You are going beyond disliking bad faith criticism from the right. You said the tweets weren't anti-Semitic, criticism has come from across the political spectrum, and she apologized for them.

I didn't find them to be anti-Semitic and there wasn't a consensus among Jewish Americans, either.

This is such a fake controversy that is being used to smear her at this point. There was some sincere criticism, but very little. It's an incredibly famous song lyric and she was replying to Greenwald about money in politics. She apologized because she apparently learned from it and didn't want to cause offense...now people aren't accepting it and are using it to go after her.

This response was simply captured and is now being used to attack. We all know the game and how this comes about. Those in the left acting like she intended to have some sly anti-Semitic response simply fell into yet another right-wing smear job. I'm sick of it at this point.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:20:40

Maybe she just keeps accidentally saying things anti-Semites tend to say. Or maybe the right wing is making her do it. Or maybe she's got a problem.

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:23:07

:q
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:23:31

jerseyhoya wrote:Maybe she just keeps accidentally saying things anti-Semites tend to say. Or maybe the right wing is making her do it. Or maybe she's got a problem.


what other things has she said?

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:24:15

big enough that she should resign? should her (hold your nose) 1A rights be respected? should this be a teachable moment? if it is, are there other lessons that should be learned?
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:24:42

SHUT IT DOWN!
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