Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Dec 19, 2018 04:39:49

So the secret grand jury case happening at the moment is about a subpoena that some foreign company is trying to suppress. The appellate court upheld the lower court opinion that the company must comply. There's also some kind of building monetary penalty for noncompliance. The company is owned by a foreign government.

I'm going to guess right now that it's Rosneft. This will be the bribe to end all bribes.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby joboggi » Wed Dec 19, 2018 08:18:04

The Donald crimes

1. Conspiracy to rig an election
2. Witness tampering times ten or so.
3. The so called charity stole money and used it for his own purposes.
4. Money laundering in the purchase of Donald property.
5. Paying off porn stars with election money
6. Being a really bad guy
7. Taking bribes
8. Constant communication with a foreign power for the purpose of stealing an election
9. Doing the bidding of a foreign nation for money, the Trump tower Moscow.
10. Not bad for being sleepy eyed. More later.

Bottom line, there is nothing off the table for the Donald including using his own children to committed crimes.

Big mistake this presidential thing.

More later.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Wed Dec 19, 2018 09:24:03

I got to hear the whole SHS Show. It was something. My favorites were:

1. When asked if the WH was ready to walk back the talking points that Flynn was ambushed by FBI since he admitted it clearly to the judge a half dozen times, she answered NO. She clarified that they are committed to the theory that he was shaken down, and treated inappropriately.

2. When she said NOT NAFTA will pay for the wall and was challenged there would need to be a tax to recoup the $5B, she went all 'no new taxes' got flustered, started babbling, then someone called out 'anyone done that math on this'.

The press was feisty. Probably the month since they've seen her, then being pretty much being lectured with lies.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Dec 19, 2018 09:34:45

Rudy has said many times that Donnie never signed the letter of intent for plans to build to Trump Moscow Tower

CNN obtained a copy of the letter and he signed it
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:14:55

A few pretty good things the past few days--

Bumpstock ban
Criminal reform bill

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby JUburton » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:17:15

06hawkalum wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Had to unfollow AOC. She likes hundreds and hundreds of tweets a day and a large percentage of them show up in my feed. She should also probably not call something fake news. Her COS is not good at his job.


She is our Trump. An embarrassment.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:28:15

Monkeyboy wrote:So the secret grand jury case happening at the moment is about a subpoena that some foreign company is trying to suppress. The appellate court upheld the lower court opinion that the company must comply. There's also some kind of building monetary penalty for noncompliance. The company is owned by a foreign government.

I'm going to guess right now that it's Rosneft. This will be the bribe to end all bribes.


I'm going with Cambridge Analytica and Alfa Bank as a second guess
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby threecount » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:46:49

I was thinking it was Deutsche Bank...

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/4219 ... trump-ties

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:06:33

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Rudy has said many times that Donnie never signed the letter of intent for plans to build to Trump Moscow Tower

CNN obtained a copy of the letter and he signed it


Rudy says t doesn't matter... like he never said anything... AKA The patented Rudy Giuliani defense (based on Abbot & Costello's Who's on first.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby 06hawkalum » Wed Dec 19, 2018 13:42:19

So against the advice of the Pentagon, Trump has ordered the immediate withdrawal of all troops stationed in Syria.

Gee, I wonder who gave Trump this order?
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Werthless » Wed Dec 19, 2018 13:43:14

threecount wrote:I was thinking it was Deutsche Bank...

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/4219 ... trump-ties

So many possible candidates! Very excited to hear who's right.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby traderdave » Wed Dec 19, 2018 14:09:30

thephan wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Rudy has said many times that Donnie never signed the letter of intent for plans to build to Trump Moscow Tower

CNN obtained a copy of the letter and he signed it


Rudy says t doesn't matter... like he never said anything... AKA The patented Rudy Giuliani defense (based on Abbot & Costello's Who's on first.


Rudy needs to GTFO. As someone who works in M&A, I would like to remind him that an LOI is a bit more than just tire-kicking; it is not "no big deal". An LOI, while admittedly mostly non-binding, is a significant milestone, which generally begins due diligence. DD is a shit ton of work and forces you to open your robe. You do not start due diligence unless you are very serious about pursuing the acquisition/project.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Wed Dec 19, 2018 14:19:09

Don's DD is having the Russian bankruptcy rules confirmed and read to him, then confirmation that he can declare ASAP while reaping benefit.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Wed Dec 19, 2018 15:52:38

The Fed raised the rate... prepare for a tweet storm.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby traderdave » Wed Dec 19, 2018 16:04:46

thephan wrote:The Fed raised the rate... prepare for a tweet storm.


800-point swing in the Dow from news that was expected by pretty much everybody in the world.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby 06hawkalum » Wed Dec 19, 2018 16:16:40

traderdave wrote:
thephan wrote:The Fed raised the rate... prepare for a tweet storm.


800-point swing in the Dow from news that was expected by pretty much everybody in the world.


Just more evidence that, on a day to day basis, stock traders don't act rationally. People are looking for any reason to sell at the moment.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Dec 19, 2018 16:32:42

threecount wrote:I was thinking it was Deutsche Bank...

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/4219 ... trump-ties


They have certainly been involved in many other criminal ventures like this one, but I don't think they are owned by a foreign government. Maybe I'm wrong about that.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Dec 19, 2018 16:34:07

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:So the secret grand jury case happening at the moment is about a subpoena that some foreign company is trying to suppress. The appellate court upheld the lower court opinion that the company must comply. There's also some kind of building monetary penalty for noncompliance. The company is owned by a foreign government.

I'm going to guess right now that it's Rosneft. This will be the bribe to end all bribes.


I'm going with Cambridge Analytica and Alfa Bank as a second guess


Alfa Bank is my 3rd choice. I don't thing Cambridge is owned by a foreign government, so I don't think it's them. No need to seal off a whole floor of a courthouse for them.

My second choice is a Qatar company. I forget the name. Some of their moves coincided with moves from the Saudis and Kushner's actions. They are also involved with Rosnef.

Crazy times.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Wed Dec 19, 2018 18:19:49

The mission accomplished, we're out of here, we beat Isis, so long Syria is pretty amazing. The important 50% of those statements leaves Russia and Iran as the regional influencers. It also strands our allies the Kurdish fighters, perhaps to the delight of Recep Erdoga.

The hubbub is mostly centered around not only is failing a pretty basic value, but this was done without coordination and maybe even informing the Pentagon.

Oh, that defeated ISIS killed like 700 in Syria the other day.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Wed Dec 19, 2018 18:20:47

George Papadopoulos is running for congress.
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