i wonder if the steel tariffs have anything to do with the gm moves

momadance wrote:Closing plants in Ohio and Michigan. That should work out well for 2020.

Don't underestimate Trump's ability to pin the blame on others.

momadance wrote:Ford is up next.

Ford announced a few months ago that the Mustang will be the only "car" they will make, only SUV's and trucks otherwise

Fords real weird. Their new CEO is taking them into a whole other world(tech company basically). Pushing forward a LOT of automation and an OS like driving experience. The vehicle will be able to interact with the city/world around it and they will communicate to each other.

Which is completely opposed to how they're going about with their current business plan of cutting cars and only going SUV/Trucks. SUV/Trucks aren't what city dwellers purchase. they need smaller and more fuel efficient cars to get around cities. Not large hulking fuel inefficient beasts. their future and present don't quite align..

Ford Transportation... since they have taken positions in 2 scooter companies. Interesting times.

Bucky wrote:i wonder if the steel tariffs have anything to do with the gm moves

GM stated they lost a billion from them; I guess reporting can find if this is factual. They did not blame the, however.

They are shuttering a lot of combustion engine stuff. Lots of this is normal restructuring, which sucks and is poorly timed.

The sizable white collar stuff was announced a few months ago. Buyouts.

pacino wrote:

Bucky wrote:i wonder if the steel tariffs have anything to do with the gm moves

GM stated they lost a billion from them; I guess reporting can find if this is factual. They did not blame the, however.

They are shuttering a lot of combustion engine stuff. Lots of this is normal restructuring, which sucks and is poorly timed.

Ford said the tariffs are gonna cost them a lot right now but hope that in the long run it ends up better than the current state of affairs.. TBD

They can't bash the the tariffs because they'll get turned into a punching bag by President TweetsALot

Trump twattering about starting our own state sponsored media.

President Trump tweeted about CNN facing little global ratings competition and that the US should make its own worldwide network. Poor FoxNews.

slugsrbad wrote:President Trump tweeted about CNN facing little global ratings competition and that the US should make its own worldwide network. Poor FoxNews.

He can't mention FoxNews because it performed so terribly in the UK that Sky stopped broadcasting it.

What these guys are talking about:

@realDonaldTrump
While CNN doesn’t do great in the United States based on ratings, outside of the U.S. they have very little competition. Throughout the world, CNN has a powerful voice portraying the United States in an unfair....

11:47 AM - 26 Nov 2018

@realDonaldTrump
....and false way. Something has to be done, including the possibility of the United States starting our own Worldwide Network to show the World the way we really are, GREAT!

11:47 AM - 26 Nov 2018

I mean it is like he is governing straight from Mein Kampf.

Dems took the lead in CA 21 the last uncalled house seat.

WASHINGTON — Paul Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, repeatedly lied to federal investigators in breach of a plea agreement he signed two months ago, the special counsel’s office said in a court filing late on Monday.

Prosecutors working for the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, said Mr. Manafort’s “crimes and lies” about “a variety of subject matters” relieve them of all promises they made to him in the plea agreement. But under the terms of the agreement, Mr. Manafort cannot withdraw his guilty plea.

BOOM.

That's what I was afraid of. He didn't give them anything of worth. Rot in prison, human garbage. I hope the Ukraine puts him on trial for the murder of protestors.

I guess this will add a few more counts of lying to the feds. With any luck at all, he'll die in prison. He's done much more harm that most people on death row.

Mueller will now have to explain publicly what he lied about meaning this in theory should expose more on trump and his people. Borderline sneaky way of pushing damaging info into public and trump can’t do anything.

So after all these years the huge expansion of C-SPAN will be on! About time we forcibly bore globally.

What Manafort has done is pretty diabolical. Mueller will now not be able to use Manafort as a reliable witness, which could hurt his case(s) against Trump, et al. The downside to Manafort is a longer prison sentence but it won’t matter if Trump pardons him or commutes his sentence, the likelihood of which just increased because, in effect, Manafort will now not testify against him.

But the upside is they have something if they know he lied. they have about 40 witnesses now. I'm interested to see how people like Corsi bring down Stone. Manafort may not help the case but I don't think this hurts