The thing we had against Kavanaugh was all the suspicious stuff associated with the allegations. I forget where I read the article, but there was a nice rundown of all of it. For one, he lied under oath about a host of things, so it was hard to believe anything he said. I honestly don't know much about these new allegations, but if it's just a he said she said thing, then there was A LOT more on Kavanaugh.

In any case, I'm not defending anyone, just pointing out how bad things looked in Kavanaugh's case.

The thing we had against Kavanaugh was all the suspicious stuff associated with the allegations. I forget where I read the article, but there was a nice rundown of all of it. For one, he lied under oath about a host of things, so it was hard to believe anything he said. I honestly don't know much about these new allegations, but if it's just a he said she said thing, then there was A LOT more on Kavanaugh.

In any case, I'm not defending anyone, just pointing out how bad things looked in Kavanaugh's case.

PhillieMooDo wrote:

Stripes wrote:

The Savior wrote:Was there any evidence?

More than there was against Kavanaugh

That a fact?

I had a literal question. Unsure why the immediate reaction is to being kavanagh into this.

lol these hillary immigration/refugee comments. please stay away from 2020.

As the stock market continues to beat me with an inch of my life for my retirement this year, it was noted that since Trump took office the market is up roughly 17%. the broadcaster mentioned that for a similar period Obama it was up roughly 49%.

I have to be honest, I want to see that figure backed up because as good as things were 49 is a huge number.

thephan wrote:As the stock market continues to beat me with an inch of my life for my retirement this year, it was noted that since Trump took office the market is up roughly 17%. the broadcaster mentioned that for a similar period Obama it was up roughly 49%.

I have to be honest, I want to see that figure backed up because as good as things were 49 is a huge number.

according to this chart/table, the S&P was up 46% over two years on 11/30/2014. To go back further requires a subscription.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/sandp_500_2_year_return

It also hasn't updated for November 2018 yet, but as of the end of October the 2-year is up 27%

The S&P 500 closed at 2,263.69 on 1/19/17 and 2,271.31 on 1/20/17, so let's give Trump a starting S&P 500 of 2,267.50. The S&P 500 closed at 2,649.93 on 1/21/18, which is a 16.9% increase from the adjusted close on 1/20/17 (465 days).

The S&P 500 closed at 850.12 on 1/19/09 and 805.22 on 1/20/09, so let's give Obama a starting S&P 500 of 827.67. The S&P 500 closed at 1,199.73 on 1/19/10, which is a 45.0% increase from the adjusted close on 1/20/09 (465 days).

that's a lot of days for one year

To be fair, Obama came in after a pretty devastating market collapse. To some extent, a correction was pretty inevitable.

Of course, being a total incompetent might turn a correction into a bear market, and I have little hope that Trump would manage a recession very well at all. I guess the only silver lining is after 3 Republican recessions in a row, people might begin to realize that today's Republican party isn't very good at managing the economy.

TenuredVulture wrote:To be fair, Obama came in after a pretty devastating market collapse. To some extent, a correction was pretty inevitable.

so you're insinuating that the market is largely unaffected by the president

I was participating in the Goose Islands Black Friday when I heard it (buying not drinking). 46% is still plenty awesome. 17% is small, and with recent shrinkage, well, you know.

thephan wrote:As the stock market continues to beat me with an inch of my life for my retirement this year, it was noted that since Trump took office the market is up roughly 17%. the broadcaster mentioned that for a similar period Obama it was up roughly 49%.

I have to be honest, I want to see that figure backed up because as good as things were 49 is a huge number.

If you are that close to retirement your asset allocation should be conservative enough to protect against the drop we've seen recently. For those of us that have a long way to go just keep investing when you can, get a discount on some overpriced stocks.

tbf, the stock market is not the economy and is a fairly useless indicator of anything that affects real people during their daily lives. the only reason it's hilarious to see it falter a bit is that Trump puts so much undue importance onto it.

heyeaglefn wrote:If you are that close to retirement your asset allocation should be conservative enough to protect against the drop we've seen recently. For those of us that have a long way to go just keep investing when you can, get a discount on some overpriced stocks.

I'm not, but its always good to dream it like the lottery.

pacino wrote:tbf, the stock market is not the economy and is a fairly useless indicator of anything that affects real people during their daily lives. the only reason it's hilarious to see it falter a bit is that Trump puts so much undue importance onto it.

Its awesome because he made such a thing about it that now he steps on it like a rake. His advisors are good because he said if the democrats were elected tge market would shit the bed. It was coming, in fact the correction was on during the election, so he can say 'look how smart i am', when it was not really very truthy.

heyeaglefn wrote:

thephan wrote:As the stock market continues to beat me with an inch of my life for my retirement this year, it was noted that since Trump took office the market is up roughly 17%. the broadcaster mentioned that for a similar period Obama it was up roughly 49%.

I have to be honest, I want to see that figure backed up because as good as things were 49 is a huge number.

If you are that close to retirement your asset allocation should be conservative enough to protect against the drop we've seen recently. For those of us that have a long way to go just keep investing when you can, get a discount on some overpriced stocks.

Not yet. Bigger discounts ahead.

I guess the Q's have shifted to buying Iraq Dinars to get rich because they guessed that the trade imbalance talk and currency manipulation has been interpreted asa thier DJ is going to make the Dinar great again, lie from $0.001 to $3USD. They are buying millions of them. If they were not worthless I would guess they are counterfeit. They are twitter begging DJT to revalue the currency so they can be fabulously rich. Since this scam has been around since the Gulf war its bound to workout this time, right?

Trump is pissed at Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, because of the Fed Chairman. Pass the popcorn.

joboggi wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:

thephan wrote:As the stock market continues to beat me with an inch of my life for my retirement this year, it was noted that since Trump took office the market is up roughly 17%. the broadcaster mentioned that for a similar period Obama it was up roughly 49%.

I have to be honest, I want to see that figure backed up because as good as things were 49 is a huge number.

If you are that close to retirement your asset allocation should be conservative enough to protect against the drop we've seen recently. For those of us that have a long way to go just keep investing when you can, get a discount on some overpriced stocks.

Not yet. Bigger discounts ahead.

Just keep investing every 2 weeks with your 401k.

pacino wrote:

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Trump #$!&@ over 30K people who entered public service jobs with the expectation of getting loan forgiveness after ten years

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/21/the-edu ... ss-is.html

Yeah, this has been happening to co-worker after co-worker.

My wife was told years ago she had “the wrong kind of loan,” whatever in the blue fuck that means.