Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Nov 27, 2018 21:02:56

Chuck Schumer is a doofus who is bad at everything except wearing those tiny little glasses
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Nov 27, 2018 21:09:39

GM spent 10 billion on stock buybacks since 2015
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 27, 2018 22:12:36

If you tilt your head and squint, these Mississippi results seem a bit interesting

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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Nov 27, 2018 22:13:16

The link below is a hilarious account of Pruitt and his staff scripting and interview about how bad Obama was for the environment and how great Trump has been. One of their Big Bang the Drum points was 7 Superfund sites that they had knocked it out of the park on, problem being all of those construction jobs have been completed years before Pruitt ever took office. What a f****** moron.
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby Bill McNeal » Tue Nov 27, 2018 22:21:54

momadance wrote:
traderdave wrote:
Bill McNeal wrote:Yeah, I've got a family member who works in construction in Atlantic County, he's a project manager and runs some large scale pieces of major construction in NJ. His company did a #$!&@ ton of work on the Taj back in the 90's and then Trump just didn't pay. His company went out of business (he didn't own it) but he had to find a new job and wound up having to commute to New Brunswick for years and years after. Anyway, he voted for Trump because he thinks he's a good businessman. wtf goes through peoples heads.


Meaning no offense whatsoever, this story almost defies belief.


There are a ton of stories like that here. He ruined a lot of lives with the construction of the Taj. Would probably make for an interesting book.


@td no offense taken at all totally agree

Moma is spot on, I grew up in Atlantic county, my dad managed a successful residential building supply company in the 80’s to early 90’s. His company got bought by a corporate investor who thought that Trump etc. were going to make AC comparable to Vegas. At that point my dad took a buy out and we moved the fuck outta there.

All these years later my folks moved back down to Atlantic county for family reasons and as we reconnect with folks, the stories are rolling in. Yet my mom voted for trump and my dad voted for Gary Johnson
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Nov 27, 2018 22:24:24

jerseyhoya wrote:If you tilt your head and squint, these Mississippi results seem a bit interesting

Putting up a fight in an impossibly hard to win state.

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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 27, 2018 22:50:35

Dave Wasserman @Redistrict
Projection: Cindy Hyde-Smith (R) has defeated Mike Espy (D) in the #MSSEN runoff. But she's done so w/ an underwhelming margin for an R in MS.

I've won my final outstanding bet for the 2018 elections - GOP 53 Senators. But thought when placed we'd get there through McSally (or Rosendale or Heller) rather than Scott.

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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Nov 27, 2018 23:07:03

From the state dept website:
"Secretary Pompeo’s Meeting With Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Jose Valencia and Finance Minister Richard Martinez"

This occurred yesterday, just before it came out that Manafort met with assange at the Ecuador embassy. You can't make this stuff up. The coverup continues.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/11/287585.htm
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby The Savior » Tue Nov 27, 2018 23:12:21

Was pence the VP when the alleged Manafort meetings took place?
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby The Dude » Tue Nov 27, 2018 23:14:59

that's a clown question bro
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby joboggi » Tue Nov 27, 2018 23:20:31

ah, that is all common knowledge. There is one supposition, about what Manafort did for the Donald. That is probably well known to Mueller. They did tape Manafort, every time he talked over seas. They keep those tapes under ground at fort meade.

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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby The Dude » Tue Nov 27, 2018 23:28:59

Monkeyboy wrote:From the state dept website:
"Secretary Pompeo’s Meeting With Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Jose Valencia and Finance Minister Richard Martinez"

This occurred yesterday, just before it came out that Manafort met with assange at the Ecuador embassy. You can't make this stuff up. The coverup continues.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/11/287585.htm


how is this a cover-up?
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Nov 28, 2018 01:33:44

CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:If you tilt your head and squint, these Mississippi results seem a bit interesting

Putting up a fight in an impossibly hard to win state.

Looks like it is going to end up right at 8 points. Better than usual for a Mississippi Dem, but only by a couple of points. Tbf gaining points in Mississippi is harder than almost anywhere else, but thought earlier in the evening it would end up inside 5 points which would've been a helluva thing.

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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Nov 28, 2018 05:36:21

The Savior wrote:Was pence the VP when the alleged Manafort meetings took place?



Manafort was the one who insisted Pence was VP. He even pretended to have flight problems to keep Trump on the ground long enough to convince him to take Pence. I'm looking forward to Pence getting trapped into this.
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Nov 28, 2018 05:39:53

The Dude wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:From the state dept website:
"Secretary Pompeo’s Meeting With Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Jose Valencia and Finance Minister Richard Martinez"

This occurred yesterday, just before it came out that Manafort met with assange at the Ecuador embassy. You can't make this stuff up. The coverup continues.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/11/287585.htm


how is this a cover-up?


What do you think they are meeting about? I would strongly suspect they are meeting about keeping Assange in the embassy, safe from Mueller. Or maybe it's just Pompei trying to talk ecuador into not allowing him to be extradited. I find it impossible to believe he just happened to be meeting with him on the day that this all came out about Manafort visiting assange
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Nov 28, 2018 06:03:15

Important meeting. Ecuador is, after all, our 42nd largest goods trading partner.
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby The Dude » Wed Nov 28, 2018 08:32:40

Monkeyboy wrote:
The Dude wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:From the state dept website:
"Secretary Pompeo’s Meeting With Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Jose Valencia and Finance Minister Richard Martinez"

This occurred yesterday, just before it came out that Manafort met with assange at the Ecuador embassy. You can't make this stuff up. The coverup continues.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/11/287585.htm


how is this a cover-up?


What do you think they are meeting about? I would strongly suspect they are meeting about keeping Assange in the embassy, safe from Mueller. Or maybe it's just Pompei trying to talk ecuador into not allowing him to be extradited. I find it impossible to believe he just happened to be meeting with him on the day that this all came out about Manafort visiting assange


Would they have made that out in the open, then? And couldn't they just talk on the phone? Seems unlikely.
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Nov 28, 2018 08:53:14

The Dude wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:
The Dude wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:From the state dept website:
"Secretary Pompeo’s Meeting With Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Jose Valencia and Finance Minister Richard Martinez"

This occurred yesterday, just before it came out that Manafort met with assange at the Ecuador embassy. You can't make this stuff up. The coverup continues.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/11/287585.htm


how is this a cover-up?


What do you think they are meeting about? I would strongly suspect they are meeting about keeping Assange in the embassy, safe from Mueller. Or maybe it's just Pompei trying to talk ecuador into not allowing him to be extradited. I find it impossible to believe he just happened to be meeting with him on the day that this all came out about Manafort visiting assange


Would they have made that out in the open, then? And couldn't they just talk on the phone? Seems unlikely.


I feel like they've done almost everything out in the open. And if you are trying to hide something, I'm not sure there's any better way to hide it than a face to face meeting. In any case, occum's razor. It seems even less likely that this is a coincidence.
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby The Dude » Wed Nov 28, 2018 08:55:54

Nah, it seems like a stretch.they don't have to meet at all, it can be a quick call. And isn't it obvious they don't want him extradited? they really need to set up a meeting to discuss that? This wouldn't be a cover up at all, it would be telling everone
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Re: Florida does a recount and Al Gore wins: Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Nov 28, 2018 08:56:24

Can we just tear this department down? We have real needs for this money.

https://www.thenation.com/article/penta ... get-fraud/

Now, a Nation investigation has uncovered an explanation for the Pentagon’s foot-dragging: For decades, the DoD’s leaders and accountants have been perpetrating a gigantic, unconstitutional accounting fraud, deliberately cooking the books to mislead the Congress and drive the DoD’s budgets ever higher, regardless of military necessity. DoD has literally been making up numbers in its annual financial reports to Congress—representing trillions of dollars’ worth of seemingly nonexistent transactions—knowing that Congress would rely on those misleading reports when deciding how much money to give the DoD the following year, according to government records and interviews with current and former DoD officials, congressional sources, and independent experts.


The phony numbers are referred to inside the Pentagon as “plugs,” as in plugging a hole, said current and former officials. “Nippering,” a reference to a sharp-nosed tool used to snip off bits of wire or metal, is Pentagon slang for shifting money from its congressionally authorized purpose to a different purpose. Such nippering can be repeated multiple times “until the funds become virtually untraceable,” says one Pentagon-budgeting veteran who insisted on anonymity in order to keep his job as a lobbyist at the Pentagon.

The plugs can be staggering in size. In fiscal year 2015, for example, Congress appropriated $122 billion for the US Army. Yet DoD financial records for the Army’s 2015 budget included a whopping $6.5 trillion (yes, trillion) in plugs. Most of these plugs “lack[ed] supporting documentation,” in the bland phrasing of the department’s internal watchdog, the Office of Inspector General. In other words, there were no ledger entries or receipts to back up how that $6.5 trillion supposedly was spent. Indeed, more than 16,000 records that might reveal either the source or the destination of some of that $6.5 trillion had been “removed,” the inspector general’s office reported.
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