JFLNYC wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Yes, I would be shocked if marital law was declared to suspend November's elections

And there's plenty to stop Trump from doing it, legally and politically

I suspect you’ll make the argument that principled Republicans would rise up to stop him politically. They wouldn’t, but arguing the point is a waste of time.

What I really want to know is what you think can be done to stop the President from declaring martial law, especially if he doesn’t try to suspend Habeas Corpus and keeps the courts open.

The whole idea is insane for about 100 different reasons.

For starters, states run elections. Trump could say elections are cancelled and they'd still happen. We held elections during the Civil War and World War II. Constitutionally the terms of every member of the House expire on January 3, 2019 as well as 1/3 of the Senate. Suspending elections doesn't fix that.

You didn’t answer my question: What do you think can be done legally to stop the President from declaring martial law, especially if he doesn’t try to suspend Habeas Corpus and keeps the courts open?

I don't understand your question separate from the idea of trying to suspend elections. What do you think would happen if Trump declared martial law? What does that even mean?

I said it might not happen. Maybe it's very, very unlikely, as others have pointed out.

But the question was not whether it would happen. Rather is was whether you'd be shocked to see: (a) Trump tweet what I wrote; (b) Congress not act; and (c) the SC uphold Trump's actions. You said you would be shocked, so I'll take you at your word. But based on what's happened over the course of the last year and a half I think it's more than a little naive to think Trump wouldn't at least try it out in a tweet and that, if he did try to do it, I also think it's very much an open question how far, if at all, a Republican Congress and the SCOTUS with Kavanaugh would go to stop it.

slugsrbad wrote:

thephan wrote:some talking head was squeaking that the Russia cyber attack on the mid-terms is a win-win. Either the Dems prevail, and Trump says some version of 'told you so' (look @ my tweets), or the script does not flip and he says 'look how strong I was'.

OTOH if the Dems could get out of their own way...

Are Democrats in their own way?

thephan wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

thephan wrote:some talking head was squeaking that the Russia cyber attack on the mid-terms is a win-win. Either the Dems prevail, and Trump says some version of 'told you so' (look @ my tweets), or the script does not flip and he says 'look how strong I was'.

OTOH if the Dems could get out of their own way...

Are Democrats in their own way?

Are they lighting up the world? Do they have a plan? Plank even? Any type of unified message other than dump Trump? You got Burnie out there in the heartland with princess clueless selling something that’s never going to be bought there. What a farce. Bernie’s not even a Democrat. You got Joe Biden as you’re number one candidate? That would be sort of absurd and until you look at the other nine. Yeah I think the best case scenario is the Democrats are completely tripping over their own feet. There is much more in common with Don Quixote then there is a national party with a national plan. Outrage and hope is simply not enough.

The Sarge wrote:

Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump

I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!!

swishnicholson wrote:Why Trump has such a soft spot for Russia.

Hint: it's not the pee tape.

He wants to end all that. He always hated it, and he never understood it. That kind of complex, interdependent world requires virtues he doesn’t have and skills he doesn’t possess. He wants a world he intuitively understands: of individual nations, in which the most powerful are free to bully the others.

He's the kind of person who thinks that the mafia boss at the back table is the coolest guy in the room.

thephan wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

thephan wrote:some talking head was squeaking that the Russia cyber attack on the mid-terms is a win-win. Either the Dems prevail, and Trump says some version of 'told you so' (look @ my tweets), or the script does not flip and he says 'look how strong I was'.

OTOH if the Dems could get out of their own way...

Are Democrats in their own way?

Are they lighting up the world? Do they have a plan? Plank even? Any type of unified message other than dump Trump? You got Burnie out there in the heartland with princess clueless selling something that’s never going to be bought there. What a farce. Bernie’s not even a Democrat. You got Joe Biden as you’re number one candidate? That would be sort of absurd and until you look at the other nine. Yeah I think the best case scenario is the Democrats are completely tripping over their own feet. There is much more in common with Don Quixote then there is a national party with a national plan. Outrage and hope is simply not enough.

slugsrbad wrote:

thephan wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

thephan wrote:some talking head was squeaking that the Russia cyber attack on the mid-terms is a win-win. Either the Dems prevail, and Trump says some version of 'told you so' (look @ my tweets), or the script does not flip and he says 'look how strong I was'.

OTOH if the Dems could get out of their own way...

Are Democrats in their own way?

Are they lighting up the world? Do they have a plan? Plank even? Any type of unified message other than dump Trump? You got Burnie out there in the heartland with princess clueless selling something that’s never going to be bought there. What a farce. Bernie’s not even a Democrat. You got Joe Biden as you’re number one candidate? That would be sort of absurd and until you look at the other nine. Yeah I think the best case scenario is the Democrats are completely tripping over their own feet. There is much more in common with Don Quixote then there is a national party with a national plan. Outrage and hope is simply not enough.

The Democrats have vastly out preformed the Republicans in every special election, have maintained a healthy gap in the generic ballot, and have had a consist message of protecting health care and raising wages. You calling Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is telling. You're basically a James Comey, Joe Lieberman Democrat if you think that being the party of big ideals and big plans is going to cost us in the age of Trump. It's also 2018, it's too early to put any stock in any front runner for 2020, but if you can't find anyone to like in the CNN top 10 (I assume that's what you're referring too) than I don't know which mythical candidate you're waiting for.

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slugsrbad wrote:Menendez is going to lose isn’t he?

jerseyhoya wrote:voting for a non criminal

Paul Mango, a former health-care consultant who lost a bid this year to be the Republican nominee for governor of Pennsylvania, is joining the Trump administration.
The Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which is housed in the Department of Health and Human Services, on Tuesday named Mango chief of staff and chief principal deputy administrator.

Mango ran as a social conservative who attacked Wagner for supporting anti-discrimination legislation that would protect LGBT individuals. He said during the campaign that he supported work requirements for able-bodied adults on Medicaid. The Trump administration has adopted that approach.

thephan wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

thephan wrote:some talking head was squeaking that the Russia cyber attack on the mid-terms is a win-win. Either the Dems prevail, and Trump says some version of 'told you so' (look @ my tweets), or the script does not flip and he says 'look how strong I was'.

OTOH if the Dems could get out of their own way...

Are Democrats in their own way?

Are they lighting up the world? Do they have a plan? Plank even? Any type of unified message other than dump Trump? You got Burnie out there in the heartland with princess clueless selling something that’s never going to be bought there. What a farce. Bernie’s not even a Democrat. You got Joe Biden as you’re number one candidate? That would be sort of absurd and until you look at the other nine. Yeah I think the best case scenario is the Democrats are completely tripping over their own feet. There is much more in common with Don Quixote then there is a national party with a national plan. Outrage and hope is simply not enough.